Funny you mention C. R. England, because that is the exact company I have been pondering over. I have read so many bad things about them but I am starting to get a little desperate here. Their trucks look nice, they are always clean, etc.
I have probably read as much negativity concerning Swift. I was originally gong to orientation with CRST, but cancelled my plans after what I read about them. What I read about Swift was not any better, but I was able to drive myself to their terminal, and if what I have read were to happen to me, it would not have been as drastic because I could just drive back home. Had I gone with the originally planned CRST orientation, it would have been more disruptive to me if it didn't work out because their terminal is much further from my home.
At this point, I am not considering CRST, or Swift . . . . OR C. R. England.
Thanks for your help.
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Discussion in 'Swift' started by basstime54, Aug 27, 2010.
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If you restrict yourself to only working for union companies, whether trucking or not, you may never work again. I'm not going to bash you for being pro-union, or even bash unions themselves, but to choose to not drive for a company just because it is anti-union is just not smart, especially considering the current unemployment rates and the economy.
I'm not completely anti-union. I believe the original intentions and purpose of the unions were good. To give the average worker a larger voice in the workplace, and more power in negotiations over working conditions and such.
The problem is that the unions has forgotten their original intentions. They protect lazy, good-for-nothing, don't-wanna-work employees which do nothing but cost the employers (and the public) more money.
Maybe there are some good atributes of unions. I admit I have never actually worked for a union. I have worked in factories where the regular employees where union, and have talked with others who have worked in union factories, and have seen the results myself. Unions are doing more harm to our economy now than they used to do good.
In the plight the trucking industry is in today, maybe a truckdrivers union would be good. If we all banded together, perhaps we could improve our working conditions, pay, and driver treatment. Doubt that will ever happen, but would be nice to see.
If you are serious about getting into trucking, consider all the pros and cons of that company. Does that company offer what you need in a job? Don't just base your opinion on whether or not that company is pro-union.basstime54 Thanks this. -
Man I have been looking all over here in OK and every time I get a different reason for not hiring so yeah its tough, but we just gotta keep keeping on. I've been out for a year and they keep wanting refresher courses and all of that. Now I have been driving just not for a specific co. I have been filling in for people who wanted to go on vacation. Landstarve just turned me down today. we will al be working soon though I can feel it in my bones
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CRST will charge you for training right even if you are right out of school.[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I learned, and I was not at all happy to learn it. I was looking at them first, but started to lose my interest in them when I learned that fact, that they wanted to retrain me when I just left school. Frosting on the cake was when the recruiter called my home at 4 or 5 in the morning and woke my wife (and me) from a deep sleep. They did not even have the courtesy to consider the time difference when they called. -
I hear what you are saying and I agree with you. I have worked for several different unions in my life. If I must work for a non-union company I will of course in order to survive, but I will not be happy. I served an apprenticeship at my last long-term position, and worked hard -- very hard -- to become a proud journeyman. I was a journeyman for over twenty years. I have trained many people, and have helped with the negotiations of union contracts. Still, that was then and this is now. I must now start my apprenticeship training all over again. I knew that when I began this new journey. I really don't mind, because I am treading unfamiliar waters, so to speak. I need the help of you that are more familiar with this new (to me) environment. THAT is why I am here, and I thank you for your reply. -
I agree with other posters that unions made their mark, but for the most part their time has come and gone. This guy who heads the Teamsters is an embarassment to his family name and should hang his head in shame on his way to the courthouse for a legal name change. He is no Jimmy Hoffa. Any union that buys hook, line and sinker, the Socialist ideology pressed by the ACLU is no friend of mine, the true Working Man or the USA.
That said, I understand this is not a pro-vs, non-union thread. I will get back to topic.
It would have been nice if you had all of the facts to work from. Unfortunately, you didn't. It sounds to me like you're ready to move forward anyway. Good luck to you. It would have been nice to have you on my team.basstime54 Thanks this. -
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Hehehe...the quote from Redd?
Some of the folks here have a difficult time with the concept I'm a woman and have been all my life, with no plans on changing the arrangement. I've been called "he" "him" and "dude" quite a bit on here. Probably because I have an ambiguous user name.
Redd is the only member who has met me in person and he's a fairly well known and respected character here. Therefore, he would be a fairly good judge of what gender I am. I've gotten tired of explaining it all the time, and I love the way Redd said it. So I stole his words and made them my sig line.basstime54 Thanks this. -
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England screwed us out of money, repeatedly. And since I was not wise enough to know I should fight it, I didn't. Then wanted him to take a DEDICATED RUN... on the EAST coast, when we live on th WEST coast. Tried to shove me into moving there.. then screwed us out of more money... Long story short, CREngland made 4 months of our lives a nightmare.
The Company he works for now is a small local outfit, running Agricultural products.. they run flats, van, belly dumps.. you name it, Bill probably has it somewhere. The lady in charge of payroll has been there as long as I have known of the company, and is as honest as they can possibly come. The pay is pretty good. This week's check was $972. He's home every weekend. Maybe not for long, with this being the busiest part of the year, but he does get home. Dispatch is honest. They won't lie and tell you they will get you home, if they can't make it happen. These guys make it a point to know the drivers, and their wives, and treat them as their own family. He is one of the few company owners I know that I can honestly say he has had some drivers for more than 20 years.basstime54 Thanks this.
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