Looking for job in Alberta

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Stefan, Mar 5, 2011.

Do you think Canada should import foreign drivers?

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    Yes

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    No

    76 vote(s)
    80.0%
  1. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Maybe this will help immigrant drivers working in Canada from being exploited by carrier and beleive it does happen.

    THere is no driver shortage in this country, only a shortage of GOOD PAYING DRIVING JOBS.

    We'ver all heard the figures of a shortage of 50,000 drivers. We never hear much about the 610,000 class AZ - 1 licence holders that no longer drive.


    By the way, the following comes into effect tomorrow and it's not an April's Fool joke.


    Foreign worker program rules get tougher next week
    03/25/2011 [​IMG] What are you doing to retain drivers?Paying more
    Adding other financial incentives
    Communicating with them more often

    view results[​IMG]OTTAWA, Ont. -- Changes to the Temporary Foreign Worker Programprotect workers and limit them to four years of work, says the Canadian Trucking Human Resources Council.
    The changes, which are related Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations, and come into force on April 1, will address several issues, such as genuineness of job offers, compliance reviews, and duration of employment.
    Employers will be assessed based on their ability to meet the terms of a job offer and whether it is actively engaged in the province in which a Labour Market Opinion (LMO) is submitted.
    Reviews will also determine that employers and third-party agents acting on their behalf have a history of complying with employment and recruitment laws.
    As well, regulators will ensure that wages and working conditions have, over the two years preceding an LMO application, been "substantially the same" as the original job offers to temporary foreign workers.
    Rates will also have to be inline with Canadian "standards."
    Employers will be barred from the program for two years (and names will be made public) if there are any discrepancies, although fleets will have the opportunity to justify any differences.
    Employers will also be are responsible for ensuring temporary workers who do not become permanent residents don't work more that the four-year limit.
    There's more: Employers need to sign a contract with employees to outline wages, duties, and conditions related to the transportation, accommodation, health and occupational safety of the foreign workers.
    They also must cover recruiting costs; consult with the local union if the position is covered under a collective agreement; help find suitable and affordable accommodations; pay the worker's full airfare to and from their home country; provide medical coverage until the worker is eligible for provincial health insurance; and register workers through provincial workers compensation or workplace safety insurance plan.
    Fleets that want to change a Temporary Foreign Worker's terms of employment should contact HRSDC/Service Canada.
    The CTHRC's Guide to Human Resources: Volume 2 and other literature includes modules that provide the tools and templates to comply with the changes.
    Click on www.cthrc.com for more info.
     
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  3. TheHealthyDriver

    TheHealthyDriver Heavy Load Member

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    We're going to have to agree to disagree on the pay issue. Other than being gone out for periods of time, there isn't really much to this job. At least, I don't find anything about this job hard, or warranting huge amounts of money. You drive. You load. You unload. Sometimes you tarp and untarp. You keep your paperwork all nice and neat. There's just not that much to OTR.
     
  4. johnnygunn

    johnnygunn Light Load Member

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    I will agree with prarie boy for OTR pay if your a flat decker all the rules regulations wait times chaining straping Tarping hours of operation for over size permits lost time waiting again for permit office. Then drive like crazy to get to unload station or you'll have to sit and wait all weekend. Then drive like crazy again to get to load wait to load OTR for flat decking step decking lowboy ect prarie boy is right totally underpaid. For van trailers ona steady grocery run. No work involved it really depends who you pull for. But I'm sorry poor boy if I read correctly you claimed plus 50 years driving. That makes you how old. In your late 60s early 70 s. Overall for being away from home OTR family life health ect truckling doesn't pay enough nor does it have enough actually qualified professional drivers except a selct few nice wheels pboy.
     
  5. johnnygunn

    johnnygunn Light Load Member

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    However I disagree there is a shortage of qualified hardworking drivers in Canada. There is a lot of pay out there only if you want to be paid. A lot of big companies like gibsons Mullen formula key west plains baytex ect pay really good but you'd better be ready to work long and hard if you want the cash. Wescan pay not bad for an immmigrant good benifits but lower initial pay to start is the cost to get your feet into Canada I'd stay away from schnieder and other van flat deck companies like deck x trtans x ect if I were new here get on with tankers
     
  6. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    I'm 69 and have owned 2 succesful trucking companies that I have sold during that time. One was sold in the mid 70's when the Alaska pipeline was being built. I was one of very few Canadians that had Alaska Authority. One is still active today called PipeX Inc. I sold that one 6 years ago.

    www.hankstruckpictures.com/pipex.htm


    You mention Gibson, I put together their operating authorities in BC and Saskatchewan in the mid 80's for them. Between trucking companies I consulted in operating authorities in front of government boards for 14 1/2 years.
     
  7. johnnygunn

    johnnygunn Light Load Member

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    By the way pboy. No bubble burst I just popped yours to force you out in the open. Most people won't prove anything till you push the pin. I spent a year doing oversize all over north America loved the experience got raped on the rates. Glad i stayed in tankers. With regards to why logging companies hire out. Your right absolutely cheaper less hassle and they can skid you whenever. With that said all companies are slowely moving away from company drivers they have more control over a o/o than a company driver because a o/o has more invested and can't afford to say eff off. I'd never buy into a logging truck. More job security and overall good pay not top pay but good pay and consistent work in tank lines. The only way I'd touch another flat deck step deck ect pay per hour only. Mileage rates cannot account for actual time spent working truck and driver
     
  8. Sara

    Sara Bobtail Member

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    nice truck.
     
  9. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    From your last couple posts you have a couple things wrong, Theres drivers who want to work. Like me, But companies dont seem interested in me becuz im a newb no matter how hard i am willing to work.
     
  10. nate980

    nate980 Road Train Member

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    Painful when the government takes 1200 bucks lol
     
  11. Denadii Cho

    Denadii Cho Light Load Member

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    Personally, I think that's crap. If you want a job go get one. I've been retired for four years. There are a lot of companies out there not interested because of that. I went out this week and landed four jobs driving. Of course now I have to decide which one I want.

    I was fresh out of truck driving school and had a job the next day.
    Plan your strategy. You need training right?
    Ok You're probably not going to get on with the big boys yet. Go to one of the (uh...clears his throat) Shady ones. I went to an outfit that has a few hundred trucks,, flat deck trailers, and no integrity.
    Northern Industrial Carriers to be specific. Now there is an outfit that will hire almost anybody. You'll get screwed somehow. But!! You pay for your education son. You'll get experience. Then when you've been there for a few months start looking around.

    Decide what you want and let them know that you are the best there is. Let them know, by your manner, that they would lose out if they don't hire you.
    Really They don't want a rookie driver, they want confidence, reliability etc.
    Try that route. Take it from the best there is. Me.

    If you like to get things, done as you say, get things done.
     
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