Ok I'll ask what has E-Logs got to do with

One could legally drive 26.5 hours in 48 hours. At 75 that works out to 1987.5 miles.

 

Twisting and maneuvering the subject does not change the argument or proove your point.

One of the reasons the CDL process was redone in the 1980s to prevent those with umpteen dozen tickets from getting a PO box in another state to wipe their record clean. The sole reason was not simply for HOS violations, it also involved speeding, reckless, criminal records, etc.

ABS was supposed to improve safety. Same with with traction control, Quallcomm, GPS, backup cameras, And now elogs.

I'm willing to bet that are just as many 4-wheelers and big trucks in the ditch today, if not more, during a big snowstorm then there were 20, 40, or 60 years ago. The above mentioned technology simply makes steering wheel holders that much more over-confident and unskilled.

You can't fix idiots by trying to control them with an electronic box. All elogs are going to do is permit them to drive unsafe and continue in their ways within the HOS.

When are people going to understand that getting the government involved is the wrong answer. Just because the public (who know nothing about the trucking industry) deems something safe does not make it safe.

I EAT, SLEEP, AND TAKE A BREAK WHEN I WANT TO AND WHEN MY BODY TELLS ME TO, NOT WHEN AN IMPERSONAL PLASTIC BOX TELLS ME I SHOULD.

Instead of fixing the HOS to let drivers sleep more efficiently and drive more efficiently, the feds are trying to shove and force a system that has already been proven to fail down our throats.

It has little to do about safety and more about lawyers, insurance companies, and big money trucking companies like werner who are in bed together. They have already hired cheap, unskilled labor and proven themselves to be incompetent, so the only solution now is to eliminate the competition and create the next closest thing to a monopoly to remain profitable. In the end it is the American consumer that will lose, upper, middle and lower class, truck driver or not.

If we could split the sleeper birth the pre-2004 way (ie split the sleeper any way we want, as long as one break is at least two hours), I would not raise as big of a fuss as I am now. It would at least be somewhat practical.

You will see after elogs are mandated with the current HOS. There will be just as many accidents, prices skyrocket, insurance rates go way up and more and more loads not getting delivered on time due to a failed system. And the same people will be crying again about needing MORE government regulation.

Well, there you have it folks

 

Mandatory E-logs will require more trucks to be on the road, which will cause more accidents.

I just wonder what they will blame next, because "that driver couldn't have been fatigued because the computer said he had a break". Maybe chip implants that can tell if you are sleeping or cameras in the sleeper. It's for the children.

 

The government will destroy this industry with the mandated eletronic logs and these unrealistic HOS. One size does not fit all. Not everybody runs the same way, the same hrs, the same freight, same customers.... Paper logs can give us some flexibility that these elogs don't.
So what will happen? More trucks on the road with more inexperienced drivers? More team trucks than solo? Less money for us drivers? Regulate the customers too (shippers and receivers)? No more o/o? No more small companies? No more long haul? Time will tell.... The fun of trucking is over... That's for sure.

 

I think a lot of the drivers that think elogs are so good are the ones that work for huge dry van companies that do a lot of drop and hook. One size does not fit all.

What about reefers, bullwagons, and flatbeds, LTL anything, that usually have much longer wait times to load/unload?

One response I got one time from a recent graduate of a fly by night trucking school was "well don't work for a reefer company then."


Ok....If I don't, then who else will?

 

The guys that dont play by the rules now wont play by them with e logs either. It will most likely become easier to cheat on e logs than paper. Sooner or later some tech geek will find he can make a buck or two by hacking the system and selling his info.

AND e logs are not about safety (like most rules) they are more about control and money. Myself I think its my job is to get what I am hauling to its destination safe and sound everytime. I dont think its my job to know and follow every rule that some yoyo, thats never done the job, thinks I need to.

 

... and like some say, "Oh well, we will adapt..." Yeah, right... we can adapt to living in a prison with a timer controling every minute of our lifes... What else will they throw at us? Black boxes? More absurd HOS rules? Will we adapt to that too? Many will.... unfortunately... and that's why the uncontrollable government keeps throwing this *#& at us... cause we keep taking it....

 

YOU said it all my friend! It's all about CONTROL, MONEY .... and POLITICS...

 

I did 13,866 miles last month running e-logs with no problems at all. Mind you, only about half that time was in the US. I understand why people don't like the idea, but I also understand that it's just a matter of time before they become mandatory across the board. Screaming at the sky won't stop it from raining. Yes, I know this post will be very unpopular. If you were able to run legal and make money on paper, you'll be able to do it on e-logs.

 

I drive for a reefer company, I have e-logs. It doesn't tell me when to drive, eat, sleep, or take a ####. It does tell me when I'm running low on my 11 or 14, which on paper I knew anyways. It also allows my fleet manager and load planners to see my HOS in real time, and has increased my efficiency, which was already pretty #### good.