Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    Hah! What parts are plastic? Bumpers, steps, door extenders, Fenders???

    But cabin core is made of steel and tell me why EU truck with short wheel base, 4x2 is of the same weight, like US one? Becouse there is a myth about plastic cabines. Really European cabine is heavier a US one. No plastic roof, no plastic sleeper, no aluminium panels, all of steel. The problem is that EU trucks are all of COE design, and no destoible areas to save cabin in front collisions, so European cabines are tought, heavy and made of steel panels and steel substructure.

    And lets compare Century class with european conv truck, with scania t-series... Freightliner hood is made of plastic, Scania hood is made of steel ####! heavy, sleepe and cabine are made with aluminium, EU cabine is 100% steel!

    so this is MYTH!
     
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  3. V8Lenny

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    5 times stronger than steel. http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/europe/en/info_page/benefits_forged.asp
     
  4. Pablo-UA

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    Sorry but I'll keep my lightweight aluminum cab that doesn't rust.
     
  6. 98989

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    .....we ate talking about rims
    i cant see reason for not chose steel cab as rust

    cab can run 20years without rust problems

    but one thing is unclear to me

    since US truckers are prefers lightweight construction why you still use 6x4

    here we dont use 6x4 for more than 60-100mille distances

    anything longer they are not economic
     
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  7. Pablo-UA

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    Aluminium cab on conv. truck is a good thing, must be enforced in some points to be safe in side hit and roll over crash, but old aliminium COEs were the death boxes...

    Ouh, some old cabines, even steel were dangerouse. Early Kamaz cabs made of steel now are very dangerouse becouse of rust. Last year I saw international 9800 crash result... It was unbelivable, but driver jumped out cabine and got "minor" injury... Cabin was ruined. I did rewiring after cab swap. it was scary....

    Well, old COE test...
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFD-XxTJ_rk&NR=1[/ame]

    And trucker's death...
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aD2vBVCGMM&feature=channel_video_title[/ame]

    Yeah, I understand, driver was tired, did not sleep night before accident, it was hi speed crash, but new design cabin could save his life, and conventional design could save his life.

    Yeah, I see rear ended container chassis is of very old design w/o safety bar, but....

    And COE vs Conventional truck
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcmfnppIhTc[/ame]

    ZIL vs MAN, COE driver injured, but survived, and compare cabin damage! That's why I do not like COE.....
     
  8. 98989

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    here is one of reasons why we use 4x2+3axle semitrailers

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    http://www.baumaschinenbilder.de/

    look at wheelbase of trailer from king pin

    and this trailer is 5ft shorter than normal size just imagine what kind of wheelbase it would be

    this will require active steering system on last axle on trailer and this is lot more expensive than 4x2+3axle

    also heavier
     
  9. Steering Wheel Holder

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    You see, the Euros are interfering with Darwinian natural selection. He deserves to be eliminated from the road. "Safety" engineered vehicles just create more careless and incompetent drivers. This guy was eliminated by his own hand, had engineers interfered with nature, he might have gone on to kill a family of 5 and survived unscathed.
     
  10. Pablo-UA

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    it is trailer for urban areas, there are 40' and shorter semitrailers
     
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