more work same $ - legal to pay driver by the load in NJ?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by billy1623, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I have the belief that there is the need for the regulations.

    Not only in this industry, but in all.

    I have much experience in the facts that employers will do whatever it takes at the expense of the employee.

    I worked at a company in the pension plan department. One day the IRS called and they put the call to me since the owner was out of the office.

    Seems the owner was trying the best he could to exclude employees from benefits and put them to the owners of the company only.

    After 20 years of being on the side of the owners in disputes when the employees got the short staff, I decided it was enough. It was getting hard to sleep at night dealing with these greedy owners.

    Immediately upon entering the trucking industry, I see even more than I saw in the white collar companies I dealt with.

    You are on the side of the coin that I am quite familiar with and no longer wish to support.
     
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  3. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I am of the belief that most carriers treat drivers fairly. I also understand that there are some who do not. But, I see many posts which choose to blame the company for everything that is not right with the relationship. I have been on both sides of this issue. I have also experienced a bad dispatcher and company. But, I don't assume that all companies are bad or greedy because of my experience with a couple of bad carriers.

    Everyone is greedy up to a point. Drivers are greedy for wanting more money. Companies are greedy for wanting to make more money or keep more of their money. It is human nature. I have interviewed many drivers over the years. It can give you a much different perspective.
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Maybe so.

    But when I mention companies, I am not just referring to trucking.

    I worked on the books of several thousand companies and their owners.
     
  5. blktop-bucanear

    blktop-bucanear Medium Load Member

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    I no longer refer to it as common sense. I call it practical sense. It is not common at all. Most people I have worked with can barely do what they are told and do it with the least amount of effort. :biggrin_25512:
    When they do actully think It is again selfe serveing and usually with a screw the other guy or screw the company attitude.

    comomon sense and pride in a job well done appear to be quickly deteriateing.
     
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  6. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    How can you work on the books of "several thousand companies?"
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    It was in my previous life as a tax accountant over 20 years before I left and took up trucking.
     
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  8. Semi Crazy

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    Well in my case the employer wasn't following the law in PA. And all I did was fill out an application to get hired. No employee contracts back then.

    What it is in Joisey, who knows? But they need to find out. I don't why you'd be so anti-driver.

    The subject was more work for same pay. That couldn't be what he signed up for.
     
  9. G/MAN

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    I am not anti driver, but I get tired of some constantly trashing their company. I also get tired of people who make agreements and fail to adhere to their agreement or take responsibility for their own actions. I have been a company driver, leased to a carrier and run my own authority. I have seen things from every point of view.

    I have had drivers to sell my fuel, embezzle money, haul their own freight on my equipment and abandon my truck. One actually had the nerve to trash me on the internet after stealing from me and abandoning my equipment. When someone trashes their company there is usually more to the story.

    There are some good drivers as there are good companies. But, I have read at least 2 posters who have made threads trashing carriers with whom I have personal experience. My experience was very positive. According to those posters, their's was negative and the carrier's were stealing from them and treating them unfairly.

    As far as the original poster is concerned. I don't know the laws in New Jersey. However, if you agree to be compensated by the mile, load, percentage or other means, then you should stick with your agreement, negotiate a different arrangement with your company or find another company that you like. I can't see getting the state labor people or an attorney involved when you change your mind about how you are compensated. Just leave!
     
  10. blktop-bucanear

    blktop-bucanear Medium Load Member

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    WE are in a recesion folks. All businesses are cutting back and need to do more with less. Costs are going up. Things change , That is why I'm makeing a change.

    To the OP: the company could hire more drivers thus cutting the load count. however i'm sure the pay would go down as well.

    I am on salary: Ie do whatever it takes for however long it takes to get the job done.
    I'm tired so i'm looking for another job.

    pretty simple
     
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  11. lostNfound

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    In the OP's case, it seems that it is the carrier that is not sticking to the original agreement and is attempting to lower the driver's income by increasing the workload without a corresponding increase in income.

    Ironic.







    And I bet I can predict your response. :biggrin_25525:
     
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