2 beers, on day off, in personal car = fired

Don't ever confuse interpretation with the law!

But my CDL guide does say 0.04 operating a CMV and 0.08 operating a NON-CMV.

I will have to keep looking where I read the 0.04 across the board for CDL holders.

Mikeeee

 

It's fairly simple. In the eyes of law enforcement, and the majority of the voting public, there is ZERO tolerance for drinking and driving. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. But you do have to comply with it. You don't have to stand for a dui conviction. You have the right to an attorney and you have the right to plead not guilty. It will not be cheap and it will not be a speedy trial. You will lose your license until the court date. With dash cams, breathalyzers, and blood alcohol tests you have a slim chance of beating a charge. .08,.04,.01% it really doesn't matter. Any amount of alcohol in your system equates to being under the influence and is often intrepeted as such. Just don't do it and you have nothing to worry about. All you that are arguing the law and nitpicking the percentages make me believe you have a habit of drinking and driving.

 

You were doing good up to this point... now go get stuffed. You don't get to be the arbiter of whether, or under what conditions, other people can choose to have a discussion, or wish to clarify an issue.

And don't ever make assumptions of the kind you are making about people that you know nothing about.

 

I think you underestimate the forum's draw for arguing. I believe a lot of this has been mostly over trying to be right and your reading more into it then you should.

I think this could have just as easily been about many other laws that may be vague and could have ended up with about as many responses.

 

If you don't drink and drive it shouldn't matter what the percentages are should it? A member of my family is spending the rest of his life in a wheel chair thanks to a drunk driver. You'll excuse me if I find your arguements intolerable. I don't recall naming any names or addressing anyone in particular so what are you getting so worked up about? I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my statement. I don't know any of you personally. You all claim to be professionals though. I would think a professional driver would understand the importance of not drinking and driving. If you don't drink and drive then my "assumptions" do not apply to you do they?

 

I'll make my statement again, paraphrasing... it doesn't matter if your state has a .08, .04 or .10 standard.... if you are stopped with a .01-.03, you can easily still be charged, and can easily lose your CDL, and your job.

Your employer and insurance company don't give a rat's butt whther you were at .03 or .13... all they know is that you were involved in an alcohol related driving incident. If you don't realize or understand this, and still want to argue with your semantics, have at it.

It isn't like you'll keep your job by trying to tell your boss "it wasn't a full-blown DUI, I only blew .03!"

 

Its been stated in this tread a number of times, but I will put a little bit different spin on it. I have 3 children. Some times while they were growing up and would get in trouble for doing stupid stuff and get frustrated, I would simply point out, if you don't want to get in trouble, quit giving me so much material to work with.

All the numbers in the world aside. If you have a CDL don't drink anything ..... ANYTHING (alochal related) at all and then drive.

Another words, do not give the officer any material to work with. No Bear = no DUI/DWI at all.

Seems simple enough to me.

As far as getting out of it there is something else to be considered and it goes to the heart of hireing practices. If for some reason he got off, and then 6 months down the road, "had 2 bears again", got behind the wheel of a big rig, got in a wreck, and killed somone. I can only imigiane the horrible media coverage and how LE let him off.

Someone(s) would be sued, and in America, loose. Better safe than sorry (ask McDonalds) He's not going to get off ..... period. No Jugde in his right mind wants to be a part of that fopaa.

As to the Officer ...... Dont Drink and Drive .......

 

He may have only had 2 beers but I have NEVER seen a 12oz beer at Applebees! They are always 24oz glasses!

 

You notice in all the COPS episodes, all the reality shows (Most Shocking), how they always pull someone over and they say the SAME thing....

Officer: How many beers have you had tonight?

Person: Just two.

Why is it ALWAYS...TWO? If you said none, the cop knows you're lying, and if you tell the truth, if you can actually remember, you'd say 13... so you err to the side of "just a couple".

Sorry, I just find it funny. And yes, 2 beers at Applebee's/Chilis/Bennigans are equal to a 6 pack of cans.