HOS what would you change?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by tjgosurf, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    That was my reply to the question by LoneDriver as to whether you have to sleep or not.

    Under the possible new hours I advised you would have to limit your on duty time to 8.75 in order to drive every day and not run out of hours.
     
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  3. TruckingBum

    TruckingBum Light Load Member

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    I would assume that includes your 15 min pretrip and a 15 min fuel stop here and there.
    Isnt that nice we can only show driving 8.25 hrs a day, If we wanna work the next day.
    With these new rules new dot health standards for people with sedintary lifestyles, eobr on the way and mexican trucks enroute.
    Its a wonder y anyone would now sign up to be a driver.
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    You would be correct. I feel they are trying to turn the job into 9-5. What are they going to do with the loading and unloading problems.
     
  5. TruckingBum

    TruckingBum Light Load Member

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    On the other hand one outcome would be if the rules were actually enforced in mass quantities it would significantly increase the demand for drivers.
    resulting in a pay raise for most of us.
    Company a cant find drivers will have to increase pay and steal a driver from company b.

    The only rule change needed is the 70/8 60/7 thrown out the window.
    slap an eobr on no more pens when youv reached near your limit it beeps find a place to park sleep and repeat.
    eliminates litigation concerns everythings accurate.
    Would be nice if the federal government would also include some driver rights the right to for a day off
    Right to rest no matter what
    Right to sleep in a comfortable truck, with the mandatory apu installation in all class 8 vehicles equiped with a sleeper.
    my head will explode to much info :violent3:
     
  6. Smurf

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    Don't know about the rest of you but I'm just about ready to raise the white flag to DOT. Every year it's more and more regulation telling us when to do this and when to that. I should go park this #### thing on the front steps of the Congressional bldg in DC with a note that says kiss my ### and have a nice day.
     
  7. Gio

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    So that you can sort of stay on a 24 hour clock. It is tough to work days one day and then nights the next.
     
  8. fireba11

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    For years and years the Labor dept. has refused to recognize truck drivers as a skilled labor, hence the trucking companies have paid us as such.

    For things to truly change we need to force the Labor dept. to recognize us as skilled labor so we can fall under dept. of Labor guidelines, can you imagine?

    Hourly pay from the time we leave to the time we return home. 40 hour work weeks with overtime pay for everything over 40 hours. Up to 16 hour work days with 8 hours off before working again, whatever works for a factory would work for us.

    How much should our hourly pay be? 16 per hour? 20 per hour, for every hour worked, being paid for loading, unloading, waiting on a load, driving, dot inspections, everything we do, sounds good to me!

    Fireball
     
  9. LoneDriver

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    I think you misunderstood my point. What I'm trying to say is that those are artificial rules allegedly put in place for safety reasons. Like I said, "Just because a driver officially has several hours left to drive, doesn't mean that he got enough rest before getting behind the wheel.
    What if instead of sleeping, the driver stayed up all night?
    Plus some people need more sleep than others // some people can stay awake and alert longer than others."

    Those hours have nothing to do with whether a driver is fit to get behind the wheel and drive. If companies adopt a system that only allows drivers to drive for as long as they're fit to do so, then a driver could drive as long as he's able ( = not tired or sleepy) and get paid by the hour.
    Doesn't that sound fair to you guys?
     
  10. LoneDriver

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    All I'm saying is that you should have the choice. If you're ready (rested and alert) to drive again after 8, 9, 10 whatever hours, then you should not be forced to sit and wait until 12 hours.
     
  11. Roadmedic

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    It happens already. There are many drivers that can only sleep for 4 hours. They spend the rest of the time in the truckstop video arcade to tv.
     
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