E-logs and Reality

I did address this. If you are moving the unladen vehicle to a lodging place for your own purposes, you are off duty. If you have been dispatched to Dodge City, you are moving the vehicle for business purposes and are on duty.

 

What is a "lodging place"? Sounds like a place to go if your truck is not equipped with valid sleeper, otherwise why move since you have a sleeper, and besides, you're are out of hours?

 

Do you not "lodge" in your sleeper? Will the customer allow this on their property?

Common sense....which is really not so common, yeah?

 

Are you serious about this, STexan? You seem to be having a real tough time figuring out the obvious. Your questions have been answered, but you want to strain at a gnat with each question.

Whatever you do or don't do, will be fine.

 

In reality, all the eLog does is record what happens with the truck. It doesn't make you run when you need rest, that's something you choose to do. It doesn't make you drive in violation, it just records it. The eLog is a simple tool.

 

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s695/money

I thought the OOIDA was against EOBR's but this web address to Senate Bill 695 lists them as a supporter of the requirement along with a few other large carriers.

 

You can not use the truck for personal use to drive in the direction to do ANYTHING work related. If you are driving your truck to get it fixed on your time off, this would be work related. if you are driving your truck to get fuel, shop etc.. ANYTHING it's work related. DOT doesn't care (nicely I say this) if you get paid or not, the point is you are doing something work/job related. Unfortunately while some of these I feel your pain but I also see their point, Drivers would say, oh I was on time off for EVERYTHING L.O.L. Below is the QUestion and answer from the DOT website.
You can view it yourself so you know I did not manipulate any words
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y

Now time for me to hit the sack

Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?

Guidance:
When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver’s home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver’s terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time.

Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver’s en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver’s home, from the driver’s home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier’s Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

A driver placed out of service for exceeding the requirements of the hours of service regulations may not drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) to any location to obtain rest.

 

To me this is pretty straight forward. However to others, they try to find grey areas. I'm currently hearing "but what is the intent of the laws" more often then I am comfortable with.

 

I was wondering about this personal conveyance as well. In my neck of the woods, DOT doesn't care... If you have a trailer on, loaded or empty, and are caught driving while on line one, you WILL be cited with HOS violations, or falsification.... period.

I've asked them about it point blank... their answer is, you should have planned better in every scenerio I came up with...

With this said, is it really legal to do this while on e-logs? Most likely not.

Compliance huh?

 

more drivers less pay,we need to stand together if we need something done,but that wont happen,elogs work if you do all drop and hook or do the long runs.the so called major companys want this so it cuts down on the compitition.They want to cut out all the smaller companys and do away with the owner op.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.Peoples butts wouldnt be so big if they would take there heads out of them.WAKE UP PEOPLE