On the fence - New trucks, thinking about leaving job

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Rat, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Steel, you know that it is very easy to fix the turning radius on the KW 800s and 600s to match your frieghtshakers and Volvos. I have the steering stops adjusted on the 379 so that it turns dang near as tight as any aero hood. Just adjust the steering stops to the point just before the tire starts contacting the steering box etc. You would be suprised how many trucks have the sterring stops out way too far.

    As far as dock backing, don't have a problem, even with that big hood out in front of me.
     
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  3. tracyq144

    tracyq144 Heavy Load Member

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    Great thread, I just gotta put my $0.02 in here.

    I agree with the OP about having to have a truck I like, otherwise it just makes going to work an unpleasant experience, and who needs that?

    But, lot of factors to juggle: new truck, coolness and ride of a Peterbilt, small cab so you can use right seat as a "storage spot" for things, ergos in getting in and out of driver's seat, etc.

    I've had 4 brand new trucks in my 20 years (one I bought, and 3 company), and to me, that is a definite plus.

    IMO, Pete's are just about the best riding truck I have ever been in (388 ), but it was kind of a pain to back compared to set back axle trucks. Still, that or the 379 would be my choice, if I had one. Pete's and KW's with the big air cleaners hanging off the side just scream "cool", and I'll take a bit of difficulty backing for that coolness. Plus, when you do get it in the hole, you know you have done something.

    But. I recently had to turn my 388 (company truck) in for a new Prostar, and besides the crappy "Maxxforce" engine, I am more than happy with it, so far. Yes, it is ugly as sin, an absolute ##### to get out of the driver's seat (I MUST let all the air out of the seat) but it rides as well as the 388, and the sleeper is much more comfortable than the Pete's, especially with the front cab curtains-lot's of room. I can, however see the OP's issues with the smaller sleeper and no front curtains.

    Bottom line, I guess, is that, "Yes, I would jump jobs based on the equipment I have to drive", but so far, for me, it hasn't been an issue.

    I hope the OP gets what he wants.
     
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  4. Krooser

    Krooser Road Train Member

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    Here's one I drove once or twice when I was with Peck Meat Packing in the 70's. I ran team in these 359's when any driver was on vacation or sick.

    When new, this truck was driven from new by two drivers we called the Bush Pilots... runnin' SOB's for sure. They got on a year long run from Milwaukee to the docks in San Francisco hauling "mountain chain tripe" headed for Japan... they ran 50 loads in 52 weeks.

    Loaded outbound, they would deadhead back if their produce backhaul wasn't ready at noon on Monday. Roughly 5,500 miles per week, this was actually a pretty easy run as they normally would get 6,500 to 8,000 per week running three loads per week to the east coast or 5-6 runs from Milwaukee to Gibbon, NE..

    Note the 30"-ish sleeper...350 Cummins IIRC with a 13 speed. Had the crawl thru sleeper with the roll up window for privacy.One suitcase per driver in the right bunk box and a clothes rod above the right side of the bunk for your shirts/pants to hang on. The company provided a Johnson 323 CB radio. If you used the Jake anywhere besides a mountain downgrade you got your ### kicked for waking your co-driver.

    Funny how we could do more trucking with less equipment on crappier roads years ago... don't think this industry has gone soft, do ya?

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  5. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    I would kill to own that 359, I've wanted to restore a classic pete and run it around here local.
     
  6. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    I basically lived in the below truck for two+ years. It was our own truck that we added to our hotshot car hauling business. I had to crawl through a hole in the back of the cab to get to the sleeper, you got dressed laying down. The air didn't work in the truck for the first 6 months and since we got the truck in the spring, I had no air all summer. No cruise, no tilt tel wheel.

    I averaged over 16 mpg with that little 5.9 cummins but then the motor was not stock either. It put down about 200hp on a chassis dyno when we got it. But it was not along and it was easily putting down 350+ on a dyno. New(bigger) injectors, new turbo, cut the fuel plate, did timing etc.

    I am glad them days are gone.
     

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  7. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    Nice little hotshot tractor, You fella's are pretty mechanically knowledgeable, would a small (maybe 42") flat top sleeper off a late 80's R model mack be made to fit on a 91 ford ltl9000 daycab?
     
  8. steelbeltsdrumming

    steelbeltsdrumming Light Load Member

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    Ill drive what my company pays me to, or I'll leave. Just as you will. Their money, not mine
     
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  9. steelbeltsdrumming

    steelbeltsdrumming Light Load Member

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    and no one has countered my argument on fuel economy yet... personally I don't like the interior of the new Prostar either, I thought the 9000 series had a much better setup.

    Maybe if you tell your boss that the Owner of Navistar said that owner operators were obsolete and not thought of while building their trucks (this is actually true) you could talk him out of putting you in the prostar.
     
  10. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't let fuel economy be a deciding factor on what truck I buy.

    But, I pull vans. Different MPG category from skateboards.
     
  11. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Funny you should mention this. The big boss and I were chatting about trucks a few months ago. He said that what he gains in milage with the aero trucks he looses in resale of the aero trucks come trade in time.

    The bad part of this for me is that I drive his boys truck and they are the ones looking to replace this one.


    A few years ago he went on a Volvo kick. For 3 years he bought nothing but Volvos. His reasoning was that what he was going to save on fuel would make the payments on the trucks. LOL he lost more money from trucks being in the shop then he actually saved on fuel. I kid you not. Many of them had gone through 3 or more turbos within the first year on top of trucks refusing to go into regen and needing to be towed.

    Then he started buying 386 Petes and a few KW t800s and some 660s for the OTR side. Then he was stuck with trucks in the shop because of regen issues.

    This year he started with two prostars. Two of them went back withless then 30,000 miles to get their wiring harnesses replaced. One of them has been in the shop 3 times for other issues and they have less then 6 months on them.

    He keeps a stock of side skirts on hand for these aero trucks because we can't keep them intack since we run out to farmers yards down gravel roads, dirt roads etc. Some of them also pull belly dump duty in the summer which puts the trucks out in soft worksites which also tears up skirting along with the plastic bumpers etc.

    All of our 386s have bungy cords running along the doors in the steps to get to the storage in the step area. The latches are all broken or loose and the doors rattle something terrible. I had to strap the panel between the cab and sleeper on one because the bracket had broken and it was slapping against the roof of the cab.

    I am not even going to talk about the issues with the plastic cabs, doors etc and the use of CBs. Too some it might not be important but this is a big deal for me since I use a CB and use it often and I don't mean for 1/2 mile comunications either. In trucker talk, they say I am wall to wall and tree top tall. Meaning I talk ALL over the country including canada and the Islands. When I am playing I usually run 28 and sometimes will go to 26 if 28 gets too rough. I stay away from the usual channels such as 19 etc so that I don't get in peoples way.

    But if you are on 28 and you hear someone calling out from ND, Mn or Manitoba, more times then likely it is me. Yes I use the same name as I do here which is Rat. And yes I get lots of people calling back too me. Mind you I am not a big station but I am running enough power to get the job done.

    But the first part of this post should answer your question.
     
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