Frustrating Idle Cutoff

Discussion in 'Swift' started by madmoneymike5, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    With the Cascadia's it is:
    Turn on Cruise Control, press Set.

    But, like all other trucks, you have to wait the required time to do it.
    Usually between 4.5 and 5 minutes, when the light comes on. Then you have about 30 seconds before the engine shuts off.

    I'm curious as to why your time would be so tight that you could not wait 5 minutes before leaving the truck.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Many companies program this feature to not kick in when the outside ambient temperature is above a certain number (around 80 degrees I think) but you might still have to wait on the message to clutch it to keep it from shutting off.
     
  4. Wiseguywireless

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    When you go to go. you got to go!
    I have a 2x4 long enough to push the Clutch pedal down to the bottom of the free play space when wedged against the seat. Works on my truck
    I have a APU also
     
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  5. fisher guy

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    my old boss tried that with my old kw w9l (pictured above) governed me down to 72 and idle shut down at 15 minutes with no way of disabling including the cruise control method....made it impossible to pump off a load at the landfill with out the truck shuttin down (PTO driven trailer). i made one attempt to plead with him that the whole idea was idiotic and very uncalled for considering it was the middle of the new england winter...he told me he didnt care it was his truck and his fuel and the drivers comfort werent his problem...so i said ok no problem go F*** your self and have a nice day... 2 days later i landed a job with a better company better pay and unlimited idle time...last i heard my old boss went out of business after all the other drivers that were under me came over to the company i now work for (hmm i wonder how that happened ;) and also found out he was screwing me out of 300-400 a week out of my check for just shy a year.

    moral to the story is if we let these companies keep bending us over they will keep taking more and more and use less and less lube...grow a pair and tell them...it is unsafe... it is not right and your not going to take it
     
  6. madmoneymike5

    madmoneymike5 Medium Load Member

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    Well, there are plenty of times it isn't possible to wait, nor is it practical even if it was possible.

    1) Pull up to a shipper or consignee. Can't wait 5 minutes to get out of the truck.
    2) Pulling forward after a fuel stop.
    3) Doing a pretrip. Engine is on for most of my pretrip.

    These are all instances where you're in a bit of a rush but yet might not be back within 5 minutes. These are only a few I could think of at the moment. Given more time, I could come up with more I think.
     
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  7. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    And in each case you would (or could) be back in the truck and have it running without the temp getting too low or high to wake or otherwise disturb your co-driver.

    The only exception I can see is if the shipper/consignee requires the driver to be out of the truck during loading/unloading.
    A very rare thing.

    And even then, you could wait an extra 4.5 minutes before going in.
    No one would even notice, much less comment.
    And if they did, well, "I had a couple QCom messages I had to respond to...".
     
  8. madmoneymike5

    madmoneymike5 Medium Load Member

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    Your mileage and mine must vary greatly; I'm out of the truck at customers waiting on them, waiting in a line, etc., more than 10 minutes usually. In the peak of summer, it only takes five minutes for the temperature on the inside to climb 20°. There is usually a line at every truck stop register. Not to mention those times where you spend a little extra time in the restrooms when mother nature calls. In each of those cases I might be able to be back before the temperature rose too much, but might isn't good enough. I shouldn't have to worry about my student while I'm trying to deal with a customer, or for heaven's sake, go to the bathroom. Looks like I'll have to start pleading with the shop and/or safety.
     
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  9. scottied67

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    When I was 'studenting', if the mental was driving into the shipper/receiver, he always woke me up to go check in and/or drop/hook the trailers. He also took pleasure in letting the truck heat up like an oven or dip to uncomfortably low temperatures like the one time I40 was shut down and we camped out at Two Guns AZ overnight.

    But I know what you mean, I have a dog and a lot of places want the truck shut down on their property, a good example is Walmart distribution centers. So what I have taken to doing is crossing the threshold of their driveway, stopping there for a couple minutes while blasting the A/C full on, sending in the arrival macros etc. Then I creep up to their checkin in Lo gear. It's not good for the engine and turbo to roll in hot and kill the engine right away.
     
  10. capthook

    capthook Light Load Member

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    Learn what all the buttons do on your dash/panel.
    See the one labeled 'ovrd eng shdn'?
    As in : override engine shutdown!
    And you don't even have to wait 5 min to push it.
    Set your brakes, push the button, done.
     
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  11. 123456

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    Mike,

    The ocala shop can fix you right up.......:biggrin_25514:
     
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