Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    next year, they want us taking a 34 once every 7 days. which means no more weekends. and that 34 can be pushed into as high as a 52 hour. becuase they want 2 consecutive days of 1 a.m. to 5 a.m.. which means if we stop at 1:15 a.m. we can't count that day.
     
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  3. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    The basics of it here is u can drive 9 hrs a day or 10 hours 2 days a week, a days length in total including breaks and other work is 15hours, you must take 11 hrs off at night reduced to 9 hrs twice a week, you can work 6 days after that u gotta take 45 hours which can be reduced to 24 hours if you are away from home but these hours must be made up on the next 45 Hr break meaning if you are away when your next break is due you're supposed to park up for 66 hours. You can work a max of 90 hours in two weeks, I hope that makes sense to you
     
  4. shredfit1

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    Yeah, I think that the powers that be, that are creating these new rules like you describe are going to get an education about it when this goes into effect. What I forsee happening is seriously problematic. Fuel stops WILL run out, driving fuel prices through the roof... even the largest fuel carriers cannot cope with this and their larger accounts. This will drive the price up on everything that travels in some mode of transportation.... even airline flights. They could hire qualified part time drivers, but again it will drive the price up still. The only other solution is to have more fuel terminals which would take years to develop. It will be real interesting how this all plays out for sure.
     
  5. Autocar

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    A little hard to follow, but can be figured out. Ours is much simpler. We can drive 11 hours before needing a 10 hour break. Those 11 hours driving must be accomplished with in 14 hours of starting your on duty day. We can be on duty past that 14 hours, just not driving. To be able to drive again, we have to take 10 hours off from the time when we went off duty. We can accumulate 70 hours on duty in an 8 day period, then we can't drive anymore until we get some of those 70 hours back. This can be accomplished in two ways. Either count back eight days and add up all your on duty hours. If you have less than 70 and at least 10 hours off, you can drive the remaining hours. Or, we can shut down for 34 straight hours, off duty, and get all 70 hours to work again.
    As the rule is now, we can do the 70 hour restart as many times in a week as we want. Next year we will be able to do the 70 restart only once every 7 days, which is still 140 of available in 14 days.
    This is the basic rules, there are some variations.
    The problem we are having in this country is too many think a 70 work week is too short and try to lie about their hours. This is why our Congress and regulatory agency is trying to mandate EOBRs. The purpose of the EOBRs is to enforce the present rules and regs.
     
  6. Autocar

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    This will have minimal effect on only a small minority. The majority of drivers don't need back to back resets, on the road.
     
  7. Scania man

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    Oh that's just the basics, you'd want to be a lawyer to understand them fully and they are constantly changing , there's new rules every year

    Yup and the reason I think elogs will become mandatory there is because people lie on their log books, they'll want to stop that,
     
  8. RickG

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    There must be a week (168 hours) between the START of resets . You could still do every weekend.
     
  9. shredfit1

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    It will have an effect on drivers that keep fuel stops full of fuel. This will have an effect on other OTR drivers that bank on getting fuel when they need it. This will, then have an effect on airport fuel... Train fuel etc etc etc... Then fuel prices will be driven up... Thus, prices for everything will HAVE to go up.
     
  10. Autocar

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    Gee, whatever did we do before 2005, when the 34 hour restart was introduced?
     
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  11. Autocar

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    Yep, simple math.
     
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