Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Periodic exemptions from the HOS are not unusual. However, I doubt there will be exemptions from EOBRs.

 

So you are saying that unless fueltankers run illegally supplies will be dificult to deliver?

That is a scary taught that a semi loaded with such a flammable load has a driver that doesn't respect HOS.

You just made a very good argument for EOBR's.

 

There will be once they understand it will likely tank the Whole american ecomony. Heck, just last week I was in line a total of 8 1/2 hours for 2 gas loads... There were plenty of guys in line longer than I was.... just sayin'

 

What I'm saying is that there can be extremely long wait times to load at terminals... most of us are in our sleepers... but we are burning up the 14 hour clock when this happens... and under current HOS regs... it just doesn't work. never really has worked... It's not like we are unrested running like idiots... we can rest in line... heck, even the day cab guys snooze in the seat. It is what it is, and pretty much everyone that hauls fuel is in the same situation.

 

Sorry but i disagree with you.
Waiting in line doesn't give you a good night rest.
(btw i have read reports on this forum from several fuelhaulers and none have complained about long waiting times,offcourse you might be in a totally different area)

What you are doing is covering the real problem which is loading time.

Imagen if you were on EOBR's,and your fellow fuelhaulers also.
The transition period in the switchover might be rough,but once have then.................do you then really think that nothing would be done about the loading times?
Wouldn't your life then not improve?
Unless you were paid on an hourly rate,you would earn more and work less.


My dear sir,you have just made the case in favor off EOBR's and CSA.
Your situation is excatly what they are trying to be done with.
And they are right to do so.

 

We disagree on alot of stuff (well only paccar engines) but you have really hit the nail on the head here! Elogs etc would be ok if you can predict your times or have flexibility ( it's left up to traffic planners and office staff!) But you can't! If everything runs smoothly ( which they never do ) you could work them, you could predict them but in reality.....

 

Firstly, they would need more terminals in the area... Perhaps, at least 2 new interstate pipelines and a new Refinery with loadout racks.... Then, the oil companies would have to stop playing the market speculations on prices and keep the Tier 2 and 3 terminals full of product. This would allow EOBR's to work, but would require the Oil companies to completely restructure they way they do things now... Customers would have to quit playing the market on their ordering as well. I honestly don't see this happening... but who knows. Like I said, it is what it is.

What I do know is this, the oil companies get what they want... we deal with them all the time. That is why I and some other fuel haulers think that we likely will be exempt from the EOBR's and it will be back to business as usual... unfortunately.

 

I have no doubt that there will be exemptions to the EOBR mandate. There should be NO exemptions. Obamacare was supposed to force everyone to purchase insurance. I read someting not long ago that stated that there have now been 15,000 exemptions. Laws should be the same for everyone. I have no doubt that we will see the same thing with the EOBR's. If you are a major campaign contributor you have the politicians ear and get your exemption while everyone else if force to spend money they could use on something that is really needed.

 

I don't think there will be exemptions to the EOBR reg, but I do think we will continue to see the exemptions to the HOS that we have seen before.

 

If we have some who are exempt from the hos then there will be no need for them to have the EOBR's.