For Those Who Went From Paper Logs to Electronic

The difference between elogs and paper, elogs violate you the minute you go over your hours, and notifies the company. You may think you are hiding the violation on paper logs, but between your cell phone and the ecm on the truck they can pinpoint your cheating.

 

Ok you got me..sometimes I get tired at the end of my shift

 

like the company cares all they care about is if they get audited will the logs match up

 

A elog only does what it is programmed to do. They aren't a fail safe, as many here think. For example, you can log a 15 minute pre and post trip inspection every single day for your entire career and a elog wont flag a violation. Although 15 minutes for both is legal, it's too perfect and will throw a red flag in the eyes of the DOT official reviewing your logs. Doing a consistant 34 hour reset on line 2 is also too perfect, but a elog won't flag that either. Elogs are especially bad when your company likes to make their own regulations, or misinterpet them, as many of them do.

HOS violation flags are a requirement by FMCSA specs, but other violations are not.

 

It's not illegal to tear your log page out and re-do it at the end of the day.

Your log page is not valid until you sign it, and only 1 state I know of makes you (probably illegally) sign your name at the start of the day, and that's Maryland, and I could even be wrong about that. I think Canada requires that as well.

If you get caught in a 2 hour traffic jam, you're #### right I'm going to be logging that off-duty.

It's necessary to have to do that occasionally with your logbook to be able to make money and keep the customers satisfied.

I would frequently work 16 hour days, and still only get about 500 miles in, what with having to wait on customers and all that, when I ran regional. If I didn't do this, and "adjust" my log book, I'd probably have seen a good 25% reduction in my paycheck. Most customers are NOT 24/7.

E-Logs are for lazy meatheads who work for Knight and Swift and Werner and all them crap eater companies. Sure, do your E-Logs, don't worry about the customer, that's on dispatch, not you, and when the customer has had enough of it, and gives the account to another trucking company, then that's less miles for YOU. But you don't really care anyway, do you? It's not YOUR company, you just work there. And now that they've lost another customer, I guess you get to sit on your ##### more.
Go ahead and take that 12 hour break anyway.

Every company I have worked for, and this is the God's honest truth, I have taken an active interest in the welfare of the company, and have cared about it's profitability and image. In other words, I care about the company I work for, and try to make it a better company.


Get your ##### out there and WORK! I go to truck stop diners every once in a while and sit and listen to the other drivers, always hear about the same BS EVERY - ###### - TIME.

I swear to God, one night I went to a Love's in Texas to get fuel, and low and behold, some nasty fata** Werner driver had to SLEEP in front of the first fuel pump, BLOCKING people from being able to get out of the fuel aisle, because there were no more parking spots, and his E-Log was up, and he literally couldn't move more than 5mph, nowhere for him to go.

He had to talk to the Love's management and the police and all this bullcrap. I was the one to get stuck behind him in the fuel aisle.

Werner, get your trucks off the road, you're a sorry excuse for a company and if your whole company fell into a giant economic abyss never to be seen again, I'd be glad for it.

::sigh::

I'm done ranting.

 

If you're caught in a traffic jam, there is a 2 hour emergency exemption you can use to complete the run. Cough, cough. You may think you got away with murder, but actually you were legal if you just stayed on line 3 or 4.

Since I didn't read you were regional, the line-haul weekly exemption might apply to you.

If you have to fudge your logs to make a decent living, you're driving for the wrong company.

 

I know anyone that likes to run illegal can never like elogs, but most decent companies these days require you to run legal for their CSA and will randomly audit to make sure. I consistently broke 3.2k ez with elogs cause you, and dispatch, always know what you got left to do legal allowing dispatch to properly preplan. Keep the left door shut and run you're times you will always do more miles with elogs as apposed to legal paper, always. Now I know ignorant 'ole timers, like I used to be, will never believe that fact. I'm tellin ya, get with a good company that will give ya the miles, and you'll always do more on elogs w/o the hassle of worryin bout ever being in violation of 11, 14, or 70.
Also that vague rule about gaining allowing you to do a split shift solo while you take a break. Idk how it works cause it's so vague and hard to calculate right on paper, but elog gets it right everytime.

 

I get a kick out of any driver who thinks a driver who runs on elogs doesn't want to work

 

Or the complete opposite as in when drivers automatically assume that those on loose leaf are outlaws.it goes both ways.

Elogs and qualcom in trucks equate total control of that driver,and truck,for the most part as there will be exceptions,by the company. there is not an argument to convince me otherwise and i look forward to reading any rebuttals to my declaration.

 

Fixed it for you. As the saying goes, crap rolls downhill. The only thing a EOBR takes away from you is your option to run illegally. If you can run legally on paper, you don't need a EOBR. They aren't a fail safe.