prepass for weigh stations trackable or no?

My point is, either you have something to contribute to a question that was asked, in the way of a helpful answer, or, you want to criticize what someone else has had to contribute, is this not the venue to help answer questions to those who would ask, there were others that had something to say and contribute, don't you??

 

I'll repeat it, since you don't understand. NOTHING HAS CHANGED, except for perhaps the methods which amounts to nada.

 

I will repeat it again, go back to the first post and read through it, either you have something constructive to say or you don't.

 

That is constructive. You're arguing that as if by magic, since the advent of electronics that the evil "Big Brother" has begun watching you. I reply that nothing has changed, they've been watching you all along. LEO have always gone to whatever lengths they could to veryify your logbook time/distance claims - using distance and reasonable speed calculations, paper register receipts, etc. In the case of an accident that logbook verified vs toll both tickets, verification against fuel receipts and register logs.

So what's different?

Now they have a few more sources of information including GPS tags, and transponder ID tags. Nothing's different. Except perhaps your ability to hide falsifications in your logging of time/distance. Nothing has changed. Drive legally within the restrictions of the HOS regulations, and you'll be fine.

...and you're still not the thread police.

 

This will be my last post on this thread, so, you are going to get the last word, the original question delt with prepass, and scales, I and several others had something to say that might help the questioner, you on the other hand have contributed nothing in regards to the question, but chose to criticize what I had to say in answer to the question. Now I will leave the last word to you, have a good day.

 

By the side of the road guy, probably not at this stage. That being said, states like Oregon have always used time past a scale to verify your logbook. Nothing has really changed with the increased use of electronic location data. Drive within the legal speed limit, log legally, you'll be fine. Choose to be a left-lane cowboy, falsify your logbook, and eventually you'll get caught. It's just that the LEOs have some different sources of information available now.

However, I am amused by folks who have determined that the sky is falling, and we should all put our helmets on.

 

Tin foil man tin foil

 

I've been out here since 1974. Trust me, lots of things have changed.

 

Oregon, Washington, Idaho and I'm not sure what other states do not use Prepass. They use a system called Norpass, which unlike Prepass does record and track your time at the various locations. I'm not sure if it tracks you when the coop is closed, but it for sure does when you cross a scale. OR and I think WA also record your license plate when you cross a scale so you can't slide by not having a Norpass transponder. I've heard rumors that OR was sharing info with CA at Cottonwood and Shasta, but I don't always believe what a truckdriver tells me.

A good friend has a logbook violation from OR based on what Taildragon is talking about.

 

LOL! Go check out a movie from back then. It almost looks like we were living in the dark ages. But... since serious enforcement of the HOS regs started, not that much has changed. Yes, they're using more electronic data than paper records. Yes, its harder to run illegally. But outside of that, its basically the same with a few wrinkles thrown in. And no, you aren't going to need a helmet, because the sky isn't falling.