2 weeks running straight....hos?????

i was out from 6/11-9/28 on one reset
they call it trip planning

 

Some companies make people take a 34 because it is easier to dispatch the drivers knowing they can run 600 plus miles a day. Then trying to dispatch drivers who only have 6 hrs today and 5 hours tomorrow. Normally before the 34 hr restart. We would just take a day off and would work like that. Now if you take 24hr plus 10 more hours you have your full 70 hours back.

He should only be on duty not driving at the most 1hr that should include your 15 pretrip, maybe 15 min docking trailer and 15 min fuel, and 15 min post trip. If he is onduty not driving for 2hours while they unload or load his trailer. He is hurting himself. Yes that is legally how you should do it, but I never have been in trouble for doing it that way, and I have had many brushes with DOT. Now they may have made him log hours for the safety meeting and that's what they took off. But I don't think so since they had to go back in and shave off hours 2 times.

You can edit your logs you just can't edit your driving time. Only the company can edit driving time. Now if you approved the log for the day. Then you can't go back and edit. Now if went to a shipper and checked in and docked and 5 hours later my load was ready and I had forgot to put myself in the sleeper. I would go and edit it for 5mins on duty not driving and the rest I would put in the sleeper. Even if it took me 20 mins to check in and 10 mins to get into the dock. That's just me though.

 

I've always been a STRONG proponent of getting a restart anytime the opportunity presented itself for the reason mentioned above. I've often maxed out daily hours for 3+ days in order to get to delivery point 36 hours ahead of appointment so I could get a restart, enjoy my time off, mingle with regular people, and be primed for a long haul come monday after unload. But it all depends on the carrier you work for and the lengths of haul that are typically available there. It makes dispatch life easier, puts longer loads in reach of the driver (if those better suit his/her driving style), and just makes things so much easier for a while. I HATE having to run to match the hours I worked 8 days ago (due to uncontrollable circumstances at that time) ... makes absolutely no sense to me

 

How about this for the people that claim e-logs will save them if they ever have an accident and get dragged into court. That time spent at the shipper and the truck is legitimately not moving, is legally required to be on duty not driving. What do you think will happen when the lawyer shows your logs in the courtroom and your actually on duty hours exceed the HOS laws? Am I not thinking correctly here?

 

Amen STEXAN I'm the same way if I happen to get a load with too much time I will see if I can deliver it early but if not. I got a 34 restart I don't have to worry about. Some of these people can get on here with their talk about trip planning and not having to take a 34 restart in 3 months but that is load of cow dung. Especially since they work for companies who sit at Cargil plants for 2 and 3 days at a time. You don't know what you will be doing next week. Or when that load will be ready. Or how long the shipper or receiver will hold you up. What the traffic will be like. All the construction zones you have to deal with, and how much time your dispatcher will take to get you rolling again. Where do some of these guys come up with this stuff. But hey You can be what you want to be ONLINE.

 

Not necessarily gokiddogo. Some shippers and recievers don't allow you on the dock and if I'm in my sleeper you better be able to prove that I wasn't. So now they need the camera information from all the places I was at. To be honest a good lawyer can get you, but most are not going to do that type of home work or have all the facts. Like right now I'm in my passenger seat, but my log says sleeper berth. I have been dot'ed hundreds of times, and never have I been questioned about my 15min drop and hook or fuel, or dock trailer times. There is even a law where u are suppose to update your log every 4 hours if you don't have a change of duty status, and I had 10 straight hours of driving and they didn't say anything. So like I said when the DOT wants to find something. He can find something, but if you are going to log on duty time for 6 hours a day. The company is going to find a way to get rid of you. So probably will your wife.lol

 

only if you have to be on the dock i back in and get in the sleeper
check in and check out on duty

 

You know the law that I am talking about. The one that says time spent waiting to load or unload is to be taken as on duty not driving. I am not saying I log it all on duty either, I do the same as you, show 15 min checking in and then the time I am actually waiting for them to knock on the door, to me, SHOULD be legit sleeper time. Look, in the event of an accident, you are done anyway. It will cost so much to insure you that it won't be financially viable. This is the reason they can't work, if the driver's average miles drop even 10%, so does his paycheck. We all know rates will not reflect this. This is why I believe paper logs are a better system, not to totally cheat the system but so you can bend the rules a bit when you need to. Trip planning DOES come into it heavily. If you plan a trip where you MUST run 800 a day then you are asking for it in the first place. If you can't even write what you are doing on paper and believe it for yourself then why book it that way in the first place. I think the best place to work would be somewhere you can call your own shots ...................................... Certainly is for me at least. In the future if I do decide to have drivers, I will never ask them to do something I wouldn't do.

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.2&keyword=on%20duty%20not%20driving

Part 5. There you have it. All I'm saying is if the crap hits the fan, they will pull that one right there out.