Central Refrigerated Truck Stop II

Discussion in 'Discuss Your Favorite Trucking Company Here' started by celticwolf, Jan 18, 2012.

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  1. Doulos

    Doulos Medium Load Member

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    I don't think anyone said anything about snowyy's right to complain or say anything for that matter. Punky74 just said that he didn't like the kind of complaining that snowyy was engaged in. And, I don't care for it much either for that matter. Not because it offends me in some way, but because it is non-constructive for anyone, especially snowyy. It seems to me that you are the one attacking the rights of Punky74 to say how he feels because he isn't a driver. Which at the heart of it has nothing to do with what he was saying. It isn't just drivers who go through hardship or make decisions that they wish they hadn't. I just wish Punky74 had been a little more conciliatory towards snowyy, who obviously could use some encouragement.

    You all have my permission, should I ever express a hopeless attitude and not respond to encouragement to give me a swift kick in the pants.

    Hopefully this concludes (or soon concludes) this interlude and we can get back to trucking.
     
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  3. PSUMoose

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    OOPS when I did it on my calculator I used 65mph not 60 thus the issue. Thanks for finding my mistake.
     
  4. Doulos

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    Interesting, this tells me that averaging 5mph better is equivalent to making just over 2 cents more per mile.
     
  5. PSUMoose

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    You are right as far as only looking at a solo company driver is a bit myopic, that is why the post right before included my actual numbers from my last pay check. I use ATBS which tracks my expenses and compairs them with industry averages. My truck payments are high, but all my other costs are well below average. I have masters degrees in business administration and supply chain management so I have not only a little experance, but a education to help prop it up. My numbers are slightly elevated as I am a trainer and take very little time off. I am trying to help give you some data and it seems like you are just out for a fight.

    I and many of the other drivers here want to help. Ask questions and be respectful, but don't be suprised at the reactionson when that respect is not given.
     
  6. PSUMoose

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    Good point P4P. Safety and on-time bonus is 1cpm each. I am not sure what the fuel bonus is right now, can a company driver provide that data? As far as detention and short haul dose'nt that kinda reduce the miles you can drive? So I am setting those as a wash. For the newbies detention pay is paid after a shipper/reciver have detained you more than 2hrs (3hrs on Kraft). Detention for company drivers is $15/hr and $30/hr for o/o. The short haul pays you a little bit more for running shorter loads, this is because it limits how many miles you can run those days. You can make upto 44cpm your first 5mo on shorthaul, but that is for loads under 150 miles.

    I was trying to get a simple equasion, thus not including all the axullary pay. You could also include $16/30/hr (company/ O/O) for lumping your own trailer.

    So in adjusting the simplified estimation of maximum income from Central refrigerated for company solo drivers during their first 5 months.

    8.5hr per day X 60 MPH X 365 days X 30cpm (adding 2cpm for the ontime and safety bonus) = $55,845

    I'm seeing dedicated accounts accepting drivers at 3+mo exp so that is an option. I know farmland offers 34-38cpm but the drivers are only getting 2300-2900mi/wk

    I agree these numbers are not going to happen, and don't include trucks breaking down. I was just trying to point out that 100k was not a possibility to a company driver

    Hope that helps
     
  7. Doulos

    Doulos Medium Load Member

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    I appreciated your previous numbers and even printed them for future reference. I'm also pretty impressed that your expense numbers are so good since you're a trainer. But, I sure didn't mean to offend you in any way in my above comment. It was simply to express that I thought the discussion was one of what can be made in trucking, not what one can make as a max as a Central driver.

    What you do as a lease operator is still pretty far removed from what someone does under their own authority and perhaps not as lucrative as what might be earned under a specialty carrier. Saying that was not meant to impune your point, only to add to it since I thought the discussion was more broad.

    Just to be clear, I respect and have enjoyed your posts in this thread and have found them rather informative, more informative than most in fact. I'm sorry if you construed my post not convey such respect, but I'm a pretty direct person when writing and am not afraid to convey my own thoughts on a subject if I think they are relevant. I guess its a flaw in my style since while rare you are not the first to misinterpret my intentions.
     
  8. road runner 9630

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    That picture is also know as company koolaid. Is it possible yes. Most likely not attainable. The numbers are for what you make if you run your tail off, and if thy give you he miles to do so. The average load at central has decreased over the past few years, and so has the industry as a whole. Shorter loads are harder to get lots of miles as you spend more time at shippers and such. Now yes there are exceptions such as dedicated that do lots of drop and hook, but not all dedicated have the miles. Some will.
     
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  9. road runner 9630

    road runner 9630 Light Load Member

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    Yes there are better company's. Better pay is percentage not cpm. Refer is not bad money, you can make good money o/o refer, just not on cpm. My average revenue jumped about .50 cpm after leaving central. That's all in, fsc and all. It is way better, I have looked at several company's on percentage and all seem to pay much better than cpm.
     
  10. Doulos

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    I'm sorry to hear that the average miles per trip have recently dropped off. My favorites were always the 3-4 day cross county runs, but I guess that's true for most drivers. Those kind of trips actually allowed me to sleep.

    Its the overnight trips, delivering in the morning, reloading in the afternoon and running again all night series of trips I always lamented...days with next to no sleep. After a couple of weeks like that I remember picking up a load that picked up near Chicago and delivered the next day in Baltimore (I know, you probably can't get away with a trip like that today). On that trip I remember entering Pennsylvania and I remember seeing the sign that I was leaving but for the life of me I couldn't remember anything in between...and I had to change highways in the state. I don't long for times like that and I hope I don't see a lot of that at Central, but we'll see.
     
  11. passion4polishing

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    Hey I didn't mean to put down your post, because it was right on in limiting what people expect out here. I think false expectations going in are half the turnover problem.

    Btw, on time is .01 but safety is some mysterious value. I think it's less for co drivers, but my safety bonuses were ~$515 last quarter. I honestly have no idea where that number comes from, but I was happy to stuff it in my pocket.

    Detention definitely cuts miles, but if you do a lot of drop and hook short haul can still keep your miles up there. Unfortunately for company guys you have to do <300 to get it. It's a little better at 600 miles for l/o.
     
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