Do you run illegal on your logs?

Thanks for your thanks for my advice, however I must try to get "YOU" to understand my purpose for being here and that's to make sure "YOU" understand why lieing on that log book for 15 minutes can cause you time in prison or cost your licences. That's my reason for being here and my reason for being a log auditor. I DO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DO WHAT YOU DO! It's just sad the world is this way. I rob peter to pay paul every day, and I have drivers that run illegal to pay peter. Both of us are in danger, however doing it the right way or wrong way makes a difference.

If a person drives their car in front of you to kill theirself and suceed and their family hires an attorney to blame you and find you are over 15 minutes, guess who is charged with Vehicular manslaughter? U! That's why no load is worth you running illegal on time, just ask your dispatcher to move the time etc due to weather/accident back up etc.

Now show a pattern of always late etc and your butt will be in trouble with dispatch and if your dispatcher doesn't understand you need to run legal you are at the wrong company because they don't care about you, really?

Do you want to make it home to see your Mom, DAd, Kids, Grandkids, Dogs, Cats, Friends etc? Run legal and chances are you will be there.
Make sure you are resting "before" you get behind the wheel.
My biggest fear is drivers on thier 10 hour break are sleeping the first 6 and staying awake their next 4, so 5 hours later are tired/not thinking straight and having accidents (as it seems 3-5 hours starting their day are having an accident).

OK sorry I rambled. I am not mad, I am not upset just telling you my opinion and that I do understand. God if I could rob a bank right now and get by with it I would cause I am broke and need it to give to my kids for Christmas, however I won't and they will live and they will live to see their mommy and touch their mommy (when they want something )

I hope this helps you understand where I am coming from, however I believe you will come back with that's the real world sympathy, and that's cool.
Do what you have to do, I just want to know I at least tried to help you. I can't force anyone to do what I feel they should do

 

NO time waiting for a tow truck is on line 4. What you could do if state law allows you is to go to the sleeper while waiting on the tow truck. Anytime you are at that wheel and waiting on something (work related) is line 4.

So what I suggest if the state law allows you to not be at the wheel while waiting for a tow truck, go to the sleeper and tell the tow company to knock on your door. When he arrives you are on line 4, when you are in the tow truck, line 4.

It stinks I know, however if you are being towed you are usually going to be down for 10 or 34 anyhow .

 

noted, the above driver (walmart) who went to court got the HoS violation dropped and rightly so, by a judge who understood logic and common sense (unbelievabley this happened in Illinios of all places LOL)...but that was small peanuts vs being a driver who just had a carload of people commit SUICIDE via driving head on into his truck.

He got that dropped because he can bob tail for personal use, the judge did not have a leg to stand on as it's a federal regulation.

Yes if you have a log that shows you are legal at the time of the accident, that works, however if you was running illegal on the back of your brain should be will they catch me. That's what the investigators will work on next. Many times in cases it is evident it isn't your fault nothing comes of it, but many accidents are not so clear and they find the way to convict the trucker because hey that company has insurance and will cover the 20 million I am about to sue them for, what they don't understand is it affects a truck drivers job/miles/company exsisting.
An innocent driver can be convicted for being innocent, just like there has been people charged for murder that was not true. Just run over your hos and get in an accident and see what "really" happens. Follow up with the log auditor to find out, have they subpenioned (sp?) my log sheets and I guarantee the answer is yes, unless your victim had no family/friends to push the issue.

No I know you are being cool and I appreciate this debate/discussion we are having, it helps clarify both sides and I understand both sides. I do, I feel for those drivers who didn't get miles and now they have them and want to run to make that house payment (trust me, I am always robbing peter to pay paul) but I am not robbing a bank today to give my kids christmas, rather they get what they are getting (I am depressed about it, yes and I am not in the spirit because I can't buy them what they want) but I know tomorrow they have mommy and she isn't in prison just to give that child what they "want". They have the necessaity to get by! I am teaching them what life can be like if you don't do good in school! I hope I preach it enough and they do just a little better than I. But the criminal way to please my boss or to pay the bill isn't the way (yes I have thought about it, FOR SURE)

 

WELL SHOOT ME, PLEASE

I guess I was sleep reading, or umm just tired of logs???

Sorry, I am up for mistakes and misreads, right?

AM I FORGIVEN?

 

L.o.l. Yeah ok treat me like I treat those that do it, I give them $100.00. lmao! YEAH RIGHT