Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

If Im reading it right in 395.1, I would still need to fill out a log sheet, because we dont have timecards that have times on them. We get paid by the mile/load, not by the hour & it says the driver still has to have a record of start time. Can I just go to line 4 when I start & stay there until Im done at the end of the day?

 

Yes, that is how I do it too.

I tag when I started and when I finished.

 

You could write your name, the date, the time you start work, the time you finish work, and the total number of hours you worked on a piece of scrap paper and turn it into the company if they will accept it. As long as the company is willing to hold onto that scrap piece of paper with the necessary info on it for the required period of time, that's all you need.

...but yes, you CAN use a RODS as an overly complicated time card, so long as the required info is on it. Name & Date are easy enough. Start time is shown when you drop to line 4 from line 1...end time is shown when you go from line 4 back up to line 1. Total up the time on line 4. That's all you need.


http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1&guidence=Y

 

508 I have the same situation! Most days I'm local but a few times a month I'll run out of state or beyond my 100 miles. Is what I do is have my supervisor print out a copy of my hours work for the week or the prior week and take that along with me. If I were ever to be pulled over I can atleast produce some sort of proof of my HOS without having to go back a week in your log book just for one trip. To me its a pain in the ###! Alot of guys on here say just take a log everyday what the big deal?!?!! But for me its so much more added time to my day for how many stops I do and having a clustered log book is just going to confuse the DOT and they proably wont even go back the week and see if it all adds up.

 

According to the regs and the interpretation for the regs found on the FMCSA site, you don't even have to do that. ALL you need with you is the current day's log book page for any day that you do not meet the 100 air-mile radius exemption. On the days which you fall under the 100 air-mile radius exemption, you need no HOS documentation with you. While nothing prohibits you from carrying MORE than required, the more documentation that you hand over, the more information the officer has available to try to use against you. They cannot cite you for not having something you aren't required to have....just like they cannot find an error on a document they didn't see.

...and I've had days where I had to log my local day. Picked my truck up at the shop after it had been worked on over the weekend...ran 15 loads....6.5 mile haul....and was home 11.5 hours after I started at the shop. Since I ended my day at a different location than I started, I had to complete a RODS for the day. So yeah, it got rather clustered when I was loading at the quarry, driving to the job site, unloading at the job site, and driving back to the quarry all in 40 minutes. Of course since the job was on one side of the state line and the quarry on the other, I was not just driving from one town to the next, but from one state to the next...otherwise I COULD have shown my line 3 time and line 4 time in blocks without all of the constant changing back and forth. The entire day had a flag every 15 minutes. I'd show 15 for each drive and 15 for loading...wasn't able to show any time for unloading or else my time stamp back at the quarry would have been off when I'd get my next load...really displayed the ridiculousness of having to complete a RODS for local work that day...but under the regs, I had to do it, so I did.

 

is it true the 100-mi radius rule does NOT apply to "Oil field workers"?

 

there is a lot of questions on whether I should or should not fill a log out for this day or that day,,, hell who wants to be the one that gets stopped and NOT have a log book? possible log book fines, or sitting at a weigh station out of service, or waiting to see what your safety director can do to get you out of trouble while sitting and waiting. hell log books are so easy to just fill out on a daily routine, just fill it out and drive with ease. any questions look it up on the FMCSA regs n rules.. this of course is just my opinion fines can be very steep.

 

I haven't yet had dot look at my logs. He just asked to see if I had one.

 

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Answering mine own question: If you work more than 12 hours per day on a regular basis or use the Waiting Time Exception, then the answer is Yes, it is true that the Short distance/100-mile rule does NOT apply to Oil Field Workers.