For Those Who Went From Paper Logs to Electronic

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Raiderfanatic, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    our company just downsized. due to strictly running by the book. 20 our of 35 drivers left.

    so anyone that thinks better time management becuase of hos and eobr makes more money. i don't think sooooooooooo

    if they don't figure out a strategy, that company of 25 years will be no more.
     
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  3. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    Quite the opposite. Your profit margin has been based on running illegal and breaking the law. So, now you are forced into compliance, and you get less done per day. I made big money too when I did a little creative bookkeeping. We've all done it.

    If I wanted to sell pot vs. ice cream, I'm sure the first option would be much more lucrative.

    So no, it doesn't make more money. It will level out when the transition is complete - sort of. Because technology can be exploited too. It's just not as easy.
     
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  4. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    you dont see you are being used by the big companies to your own peril

    they want everyone "on the same playing field" so they can squeeze up freight and then pay all of us $5/hr

    its the short-sightedness of drivers that is the saddest part of this entire discussion

    it has nothing to do with safety, it has nothing to do with legality, it has to do with monitoring, controlling and dominating
     
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  5. NavigatorWife

    NavigatorWife Road Train Member

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    Not only that how are they going to keep track of all the renegade truckers in a controlled and moderated industry. Before a trucker could go from point a to point b and no one would know how he really got there; with eobr and tracking capabilities they know where you are and how you got there. How can the government keep up with you in the future.
     
  6. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    I don't know where you work, but I am on track to make 70K this year running legal. And for the record, we just got roughly a 10% across the board raise. My detention time is now $18 an hour and I'm at .40cpm. I get paid for loading, unloading, impromptu trailer switches, $25 an hour if I go on a vac job, and more if I run twin 48' doubles. I get an incentive if I run NYC and I always grab a Brooklyn if I can get it. We seniority bid, and I'm low on the ladder. We also get $50 for a perfect DOT inspection.

    So, you are incorrect. It is all about safety and legality. You are basing your conspiracy theories on running for bottom feeder carriers and not growing a pair of stones and finding a good paying job.

    They are out there. If you are a good driver, you can make good money. I put a snapshot up of some of my paystub from last week - I'm not posting my personal information online and it doesn't show the mileage stuff or the run destinations. I made that money in 67 hours/6 days.

    I'm not being "used" to my own peril. I had a steak last night ( which is a rare treat because I shy away from too much red meat ) and I paid for it with the sweat of my brow.

    My carrier has their cheap moments thanks to the bean counters. Nobody is perfect. But they invest in their people because what we do is a little more complicated than swinging a set of rear doors.

    I know guys that do liquid cryogenic stuff for Air Products that have been there for 5 years and are pulling 90K. On eLogs with governed trucks.

    I understand that there are carriers that use the WalMart approach to treating their people. Beat them down, and keep them hungry. It's a simple solution, don't work for them. If people voted with their feet, the bottom feeders would eventually dry up and go away.
     

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  7. KE5WDP

    KE5WDP Road Train Member

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    Man..I drive for one of the biggest carriers and they are on e-logs. If they are trying to drive down rates, I don't see it. Made 61k last year. Look to make more this year. Money is there is you are willing to work for it....

    BTW....I work M-F only....
     
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  8. Edmund

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    Here's what I can say.... I run paper logs only....no e logs.... I make 5 times as much money driving my 70mph truck on paper logs thsn I did with the former big carrier driving a 62mph on elogs... ijs creative logging call it what you will....I roll
     
  9. KE5WDP

    KE5WDP Road Train Member

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    5 times?

    So with me with my mega carrier on e-logs...you make $300,000 a year??? naahhhhhh

    So maybe you only made $30,000.....times five.....that means you make $150,000 a year?????



    Doubtful....go back to school "Student"...
     
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  10. k7tkr

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  11. NavigatorWife

    NavigatorWife Road Train Member

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    The more days you take off the less money you bring in also.
     
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