What is with rates???

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Alf24, May 28, 2013.

What is causing the unbelievably low freight pay?

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    Drivers taking low pay

    28 vote(s)
    44.4%
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    Brokers freezing and holding load

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Bad economy

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
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    Shippers/Customers allowing freight to sit

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Loads being double, tripled brokered

    17 vote(s)
    27.0%
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    High driver to load ratio

    7 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    I was offered several $4 mile loads today, but all were going to your neck of the woods in ME/CT/VT/NY and I already had one booked headed west. Just sayin.... lol
     
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  3. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    May was $23,174.60 on 8804 odometer miles for me. lot's of it was partials and multi stop loads. Hey, if I could do $2.50/mile (all miles) on full truckloads I wouldn't mess around with these partials at all, but I can't come close to that right now on full truck stuff. partials takes some head scratching and lots of phone calls and communication, but I'll take getting paid for doing that stuff rather than running 3500 miles a week for less net income.

    your problem is you think you must have a few parts starting and ending in the same small radius. that's only one way to do it.
     
  4. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    You should get your freight from the guy building it, selling it, or buying it
     
  5. Who

    Who Bobtail Member

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    You're cool.
    You do make a lot of assumptions and presumptions, though.
    Your program is working and there is no need to change or even anticipate change.
     
  6. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    As long as you do the same thing carlos and jim bob do you'll get about the same reward they get. 3-7 mile right? time you add all the miles, time and wear and tear on you and your equipment it's a whole lot less. But it's your story stick to it. I've met the same people before that claim all this money online and in person it's a whole different story. I don't need but one or two gravy loads a week anyway.
    Or I could just open back up working on wore out trucks from drivers who haul to much ltl freight.
     
  7. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    You never make anything any better by doing the samething everyone else dose that causes the problem. I've built models of real loads and put them together using ltl and it never worked out in 99% of the secnario's and these were real loads, different areas and different equipment needed.
    Big carriers can do it cause they have the volume of trucks moving small O/O caan't and make really good money in the end.
    Let me ask you a question here? If ltl was so great why aren't the brokers putting together these loads and skimming more money off the top?
    when you haul some brokers ltl cheap stuff you're just being their "whooping boy" I've seen it to many times since I refuse to haul way underpriced stuff they can't get it covered they call back in few hours with what you want. So continue to sell your services like thjey are worth less and thats what they'll pay you.
     
  8. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    The reason brokers aren't putting stuff together is because it takes coordination, planning, and following through, you need to get as many Indians outta the TeePee as possible. And brokers do try and they do a piss poor job, this discussion will never end, takes a special breed to do what I do
     
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  9. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    And just because you and the majority if everyone else can't do it doesn't mean I'm not making money
     
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  10. Al. Roper

    Al. Roper Road Train Member

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    I agree with Cluck and Fisher Guy. Not everybody knows how to figure miles and build a profitable load. I pull a 40' gooseneck so makes it harder for me sometimes to build a great load but we do build good loads. So far this year average is 1.75 to truck for all miles. Not great but not terrible either.
     
  11. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    Pulling a gooseneck you best get your money on the first piece or you may not get iit at all. Then you sit days finding this piece and that piece, you spend 2-4 days loading and same amount unloading. I done done this first 18 moths I had my authority and it never made money except once or twice. I wait for 2.60 going out and 2.00-2.25 coming back I'm not going to do all that pecking on pc miler trying to make something work. Once I load if I spot a 2.00 or more companion item I may get it I never wait more than a couple days for 2.60 a mile or better.
    mr cluck runs class 8 and different area than I do so he may have different results. If you're in Al theres no reason to put a bunch of crap together get one good item and go.
     
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