HOS changes and my perspective on EOBR's...

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Scooter Jones, Jun 30, 2013.

  1. landstar8891

    landstar8891 Road Train Member

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    ..But yet they do NOTHING to give the ''drivers'' a raise,more hometime,better benifits and feed these guys dog biscuits.And on occassion they toss them a company logo hat and a sticker to paste on there butt cheecks...:biggrin_2559:
     
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  3. RickG

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    Do you really expect drivers or O/O's to get more money because the company profits increase ? That's why companies push these things . If they raise rates the drivers and O/O's get part of the percentage . Any other way they can increase profits they get to keep .
    Another problem is health insurance . Carriers shop for cheaper rates which mean higher deductibles for drivers .
     
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    Yea,Yea,Yea, ..ROBOTS are usually more efficent than people,but we drivers are human.If these CEOs want robotic,calculated,production they should go buy a factory....I am not a robot and will never drive for a company that employs them or any of these tatics..
     
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  5. landstar8891

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    And there lies the issue in trucking...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR......While the Slave Masters are increasing there profits,the drivers are left in the back of a Petro,living like an ANIMAL...This will only bring in more dumbed down,clueless,bottom of the barral people to do this job...

    I am sure OOIDA will fold in the next 10 years.I do not see how they could survive with all these brainwashed neewbie compliant SLAVES coming aboard....????
     
  6. landstar8891

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    Are days are numbered friend....They opened the gates and all the SHEEPLE are coming into trucking..There is a trend of ''homeless trucking'' going on and bowing down to the Slave Masters...It's PATHETIC what these so-called drivers will give up for 500.00 a week....
     
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  7. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    L/S, I can only speak for what happens here, and as a driver/owner I have NEVER asked a driver to do anything that I wouldn't or couldn't, in fact, I up to a short time ago when I just became to busy with our company growing, was ALWAYS the cover guy.

    Have a driver that has an emergency, I'm on my way, have a driver that is taking some extended time off, I'll cover the load/route. I can prove to you that our drivers, miles, pay, stress is no diffenrt now than before.

    Do I think or know this is true for other companies, I have no idea, and I can see your point.

    As I said before, as companies go, we are very small, so we are very flexible, we just had some drivers retire over the last couple of years, but up until that point, most of my guys were here an average of ten years or more.

    I guess in answer to your question, what has the driver gotten out of it? I wold say this this, if god forbid one of my guys gets in a wreck and I get sued big time, with AOBR's I am pretty confident that everything can be proven, as far as legal running time and rest periods.

    Yes, an accident can happen to anyone, at anytime, but let's just say that you are an hour from home and out of hours, and you just decide to "go for it" a car runs under your trailer, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT YOUR FAULT, YOU have just lost EVERYTHING you have worked for.

    I would be doing my drivers a disservice by playing fast and loose with the company, because if we were in the above scenario, those action may well have cost EVERY driver here their job.

    I would think THAT would be VERY STRESSFUL!
     
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  8. landstar8891

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    Again it routes back to ''YOU'',The Slave Owners...lol,lol....I agree with you looking out for #1.I see your points and it makes perfect sence to be on the side of the ''LAW''....

    But people fail to realize the others involved.The driver,his or her family,there kids,there medical,retirments and the such.

    No offence Kansas.But unless i get a dynamite pay ''package'',i would never work for someone with the E-LOGS..I would work for an E-LOG Outfit if they met my criteria.Which is very high because i am one of the BEST..I do not work cheap...:biggrin_255:

    If a company wants me to ''cover there butt'' and be the BEST they better give me something dam good for ''covering there butt''.This is the issue in trucking....We are back to the old saying...Expectations of an airline pilot,paid like a janitor..
     
  9. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Now this, I agree with 100%, so how does paying "these guys" more money get you anywhere?, It doesn't. There is a real driver shortage going on, not for people that hold a CDL, there are plenty of them, but good, safe, courteous, clean cut, literate, mechanically inclined drivers are hard to come by.

    But even with that said, the BEST drivers, can and will, forget to dot and I cross a T, list the correct town they stopped in, look at the wrong time when they crossed a state line, etc.

    The big problem is, for most people "trucking" is a transient job. You just don't have the people that stick with it to climb up the ladder like you used to.

    As long as that is the situation, your talent level in trucking will never get any better, NOBODY, you and me included, were GREAT truckers in our first couple of years, it takes time, time that most people these days are NOT willing to put in, so what you are left with, is what you have.
     
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    Again, totally agree with what you are saying, but the flip side to that is this, after all is said and done this is still a business, not a non-profit charity.

    There is only so much money available to pay a driver, you are in business, you know as well as I do it all comes down to numbers.

    Then people would say,well charge more for your service, that only goes so far before someone else comes in an underbids you, so here is the question, would your driver rather sit home with NO pay for his family knowing that the company held fast on their rate?

    Or is he better off still working everyday, feeding his family, and the world still turns? Sometimes, all the money there is, is all the money there is!

    If a driver feels he needs to make more than the company can pay him, then it is UP TO HIM, as a thinking individual to find something better, move up the ladder, learn a new skill set within the industry, move to heavy haul, or Haz-mat, or oversize,tanker, or better yet, stick your neck WAAAY out there and start your own company!


    But the truth is most people would rather sit in front of a keyboard and cry about it on a forum such as this, rather than have the BALLS to take matters into their own hands, that way they always have someone else to blame for their perceived shortcomings!!!

     
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  11. landstar8891

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    And that is why i come to this forum 80% of the time.20% of the time i like to break balls..I try to get into these guys and gals heads and break the ''brainwashing'' that has been fed to them in the Billy Big Riggers Trucker School...

    Trucking School is more like an ''indoctrination'' rather than a school to produce good solid hard working self thinking drivers...This task is so very difficult.It is almost like a ''trance'' these drivers are in and it is very hard to break..

    You may laugh.But i was thinking on getting some more trucks and tossing these ''brainwashed'' drivers a dog biscuit,a shiny bumper and a 75MPH Truck...This would make me alot of money...:biggrin_2559:...But for now i will take the ''teacher'' approach and try hard to lift some of these guys up and hope that at least one will listen and believe he/she is worth more....
     
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