DOT Proposes Use of Electronic Logbooks to Improve Efficiency, Safety in Commercial B

You make a note, get your documentation/proof and you move. You take your break elsewhere. If you think elogs has some sort of engine kill switch, you are mistaken.

Don't you think if more if these incidents or problems are documented and verified by real, accurate logs, that they could begin to do something about this problem?

 

im sorry, you're the guy mindlessly holding the steering wheel for HOURS and can't think in his seat.

Again, if you truly think this way you are really gonna have a problem with this.

 

The biggest problem is, we are regulated to the lowest common denominator, and unfortunately in this industry that can be pretty low. If we as an industry could police ourselves we wouldn't have these issues, but you will always have the guys that feel the need to run 800 miles a day or don't pull over and sleep when they really need it. Until people can take responsibility for themselves and their actions, this will continue.

 

Seems to me you have a real problem with paper logs, maybe your just jealous of people that still have rights to say when and were they want to be and go, your arguing to people that have been their, done that and have a hell of a lot more experience then you, and don't give me this bs safety bull crap, its all about control and putting the small guy under while you do your drop and hooks.

 

Bought my first truck in 1984, and now I have to learn how to plan a trip. Lets see thats 30 years of blizzards and road closures, construction, accidents and traffic tie ups, equipment breakdowns and countless other things that bring traffic to a stop. Now I have to learn how to manage my clock.

Hypothetical, you are a shipper in Florida with a very important shipment going to Seattle. It's January a bad storm is taking shape in the NW. Arctic air is going to plunge way down south, gulf coast moisture is being pulled up.

Who do you want on this load, the guy with electronic logs ( he ran out of hours in Cheyenne ) or the old guy ( also out of hours in Cheyenne ) Wyoming is going to get hit hard with the storm. I'm the old guy, I'm going to get my butt over Sherman and Elk. Get to Little America then get the logs legal.

That is trip planning, been doing it for 30 years and been doing it safe.

 

and what is so hard about 800 miles in a day.god help the real truck drivers.

 

Some days 400 miles feel like 800, and some days 800 miles feel like 400. Plan your day on how you feel and whats going on around you. Not because the box says times up.

 

Ignorance runs wild in the trucking industry................Most of you don't vote and are uninformed about the issues that affect your livelihood. That hasn't changed though and will continue to get worse. The younger drivers coming into the industry who are fed a line of bull about how EOBR's are a good thing at school will tow that line because they know no better. Does self-responsibility, privacy, and self-worth mean anything to those in favor of this???? Accident rates will not go down and in fact I'll make the argument that they will go up. Why you ask? Because the turn-over rate will surely surpass it's 100% it's currently at and probably peak around 200%. That means more unqualified drivers on the road, fresh grads from the CRE or Swift academy...... Don't we have enough of these on the road??? Cheating logs is not the issue....Fatigue is the real issue and an EOBR will do nothing to improve safety. You cannot regulate self-responsibility, and bringing more undesirables into the industry will only make the roads more dangerous for us all. This law will surely mean more trucks on the road as well. The ATA has never been a friend to the trucking industry so that's no surprise there . They are a friend to the unions and no one else which makes up a very small percentage of the industry. The trucking industry is and always will be an easy target for the government because of the ignorance that runs wild within it. Many of you cannot see the freedoms you have lost and continue to lose every day. When this law is put into effect I can already see a mas exodus from the industry for many of us that no better. This law will make my job and yours more dangerous.

 

For the people that say they are on them now and make just as much as you did before are full of yourselfs I have to move numbers every week and just to clarify something I have never drove over my 11 hours!!!

 

for some reason, that is UNHEARD OF these days

merely because some DC talking head said so, and drivers and companies ate it up

if you drive 75mph for 11 hrs, its 825 miles
if you drive 70mph for 11 hrs, its 770 miles
if you drive 65mph for 11 hrs, its 715 miles
if you drive 60mph for 11 hrs, its 660 miles
if you drive 55mph for 11 hrs, its 605 miles

same work, different rates, so these guys have not only opt for elogs but are driving 60mph trucks, thats cutting your legs off before the race.

YET, they think anything beyond their forced limitations is OUTLAW and illegal