DOT Proposes Use of Electronic Logbooks to Improve Efficiency, Safety in Commercial B

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  1. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    you need to read the green book again. you are wrong , following your line of reasoning you would have to remain on duty for your 10 hour break.
     
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  3. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    again i say

    if that load disappears on my ten hour break, am i no longer responsible?
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Especially from the point of view known as the company.
     
  5. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    its actually whats cargo insurance is for, but again what are going to do remain on duty for the 10 hour break which is illegal?

    and again I say read the green book, under your overblown premise , I guess you never leave the truck to eat , and I guess you got a five gallon bucket to crap in.

    honestly, over the top ideas like yours are why a good many folks don't understand the HOS and get into a panic over any mention of it.

    the world wont come to an end, everyone will adapt , just as they always do. I rarely drive over 2,000 miles a week, I don't think my world will come crashing down.
     
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  6. skateboardman

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    so do you stay on duty the entire time you are pulling a travel trailer?? of course you don't, nor does anyone.
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    You are missing the point of what I stated.

    I agree that you are not on duty 24/7. However, if something happens, the company is going to be on your case.
     
  8. Studebaker Hawk

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    FMCSA and the public want Elogs. So be it. They also mandated 80,000 lb limits and numerous other conditions. What I have a hard time understanding is why drivers have such an unreasonable desire to deliver whatever is in the back of their trailer. Last time I checked there is no beating heart as cargo in the trailer and someone will die if it doesn't get delivered. The industry will adjust to the changes caused by this implementation. And the best thing is the driver just points to the dashboard and says to his operations people "no can do". The driver is no longer the party held responsible for prior unreasonable delivery conditions or promises, no matter what they were. His boss will be.
    Pay and workloads will work out after a period of adjustment. Try and harass or fire me and I am sure an army of lawyers will take my case on a contingency basis. I am looking forward to it
     
  9. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    Don't mean to cause so much hate and discontent, but if you are ever put under heavy scrutiny after a wreck or what ever and it is discovered you are logging off duty to fuel and get loaded or unloaded which allows you to work more hours in regards to your seventy, after all that is why we do it, I believe we will be in deep poop. But it is our gamble to take and the consequences we have to pay. P.S. I believe you can legally log your 1/2 break at a shipper/receiver.
     
  10. skateboardman

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    I always log fuel stops on duty, and I log on duty when I load or unload. but that doesn't mean I log on duty while I sit there waiting to be loaded when I am kicked back watching tv and eating ramen noodles.
     
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  11. LBZ

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    Pretty sure from what I hear of companies as well as how the regs read, the driver truly is the replaceable part of the equation.
     
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