I run electric logs and when I first started I think I remember hearing from the people at the company that it doesn't matter if it's a pre trip or post trip one just needs to be in there somewhere. Is this true legally speaking?
logbook pretrip question.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by zoekatya, Apr 24, 2014.
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[h=3]§396.11: Driver vehicle inspection report(s).[/h] (a) Equipment provided by motor carrier. (1) Report required. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated, except for intermodal equipment tendered by an intermodal equipment provider. The report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/396.11
So... drive it 600 miles, discover any deficiencies later. -
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Would the correct verbiage be "the beginning of each shift, and the end of each shift"?
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I always do a pre and post trip...beginning of the day or shift the pre trip is usually 20-30 min. Post trip is usually 10-15. Find something on your post you can get it looked after before you start your next day or shift..
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There is NO time requirement to log a PTI. Companies set their own policies, & DOT officers have their own interpretations, but just log what you do.
The law says you must inspect equipment before driving it AND/OR be satisfied that it is in safe working condition. Technically that means no pti is required as long as you are satisfied with the condition. Practically, you should be at least checking lights, tires, & fluids. If that takes 3 minutes, log 3 minutes. If it takes 15, log 15.
Tbe regulation further states that you must complete a report at the end of the day and note any deficiencies you discovered within a specific list of items. Technically it does not require you to perform an inspection, but from a practical standpoint you should. How long? As long as it takes to do the job. -
yep, double double yellow. written report at the end of each day.
i flag a 5 pre and log a `15 post. -
You want to check your equipment BEFORE you drive it, right ? When you check it at the end of the day and go to bed, it will be the same condition the next morning, except for a possible flat tire that was up the night before and slowly leaked the air overnight. Most companies want a pre/post trip. You are allowed to post trip and fuel the same time. (to save hours). Always check your equipment whenever you stop, at least a walk-around.
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If you're on elogs, for example if you have QComm, there should be a drop down menu for change of status, and your company may want you to specify its a pre or a post trip, even though it's pretty obvious. Our company requires it, so it's a matter of what the safety dept wants.
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