Stop calling it a back haul

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well they must be slow, looking into your basket to pick up some $$$. If you call your customer , check in see how its going. keeps you fresh in there mind. Ya might be surprised when they call you to save their 12 million dollar bacon more than just once.

 

Who would WANT to compete with that? I see you changed your name.

 

Reminds me of the guy asking about round trip load he had in another thread. What would we charge? The problem with that freight in my area is that you have a lot of companies like Ryder Logistics or Ceva Logistics who gobble up regular runs like that no sweat and pay a daycab company driver $14-$15 an hour to do the runs. These are scheduled auto parts runs and they need to have dependable service. But they can bid that stuff down to where it's crap. You can't compete with that. All you can do is be the kind of go-to guy when one of their dedicated drivers decides to take a week off and they have no way to cover it, then it's time to set things right rates-wise. Most of the local smaller carriers around here wouldn't undercut something like your run so badly but there are a few shoddy 15-30 trucks carriers with company drivers who will come in and cover up a bunch of hot expedite for #### near nothing ruining what was good for a while for everyone else. That's why you always get it while you can and make sure to set things right (of course you know that).

That broker thread where the guy is outraged and talking about how he will remember truckers when the wave breaks and rates aren't so good. Haha!! I was never in this business to make friends and make other people rich anyways. I bet I can sit on the sidelines of the game longer than he can Besides the rates he speaks of are, while kind of over the top compared to a decade ago, really only fair considering inflation and other current conditions. $5 a mile doesn't go far when you've got deadhead, $4 fuel, etc, etc, etc (you know this also). Had a broker that had been paying me decent rates offer up some 830 mile run this morning for $2,300 and he got mad when I told him $3,800. Emailed back pronto "we'll find someone else". Well good luck brutha and sionara (as they say in Japan lol) I don't need your marginal rate to a total deadzone and there are 1,000's of others in your same shoes who will gladly pay. When they start (as they always do with dry vans) to put that downward pressure on, with all the same excuses, see ya later alligator!!!

 

They're living in the past the ones locked in. The ones able to get more are making bank. That's also causing chaos. Chaos is good for the trucks.

 

We have a winner!

A "Backhaul" is only a backhaul to the truck that needs to get back to the loading point of their bread and butter, period. One company's headhaul is another's backhaul.

Say you have a shipper that you service, and you run from Phoenix to Salt Lake City. When empty in SLC, you need to get the truck back to Phoenix as quick as possible for another load to SLC, your shipper or any shipper is bidding traffic from SLC to PHX. So you bid the traffic at a reduced rate to ensure you get the bid, and it gets the truck back to PHX quickly.

Anything else is a play on semantics.

 

Brandy Jo, I am in Houston, O/O & am free for trip lease, or long term lease. I doubt your numbers. I have a "thumb" on traffic in this hub. Show Me. Thunder Transport, Houston, Tx.

 

U guys talking about the 400 for a local load comment or did I miss something ?