so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

One company did just that and they went under. Sorry I can't recall the name but they did go under it was an east coast company that ran strictly by the book and trust and believe you won't know when yours may go under just have your bus fair ready just incase.

 

What is the point of stating this? You might as well have said that you heard that your friend's cousin's brother in law, heard from his niece that a company on the east coast went out of business. Get some details, or state an opinion, but citing a "fact" without specifics is pointless.

 

Although I agree with you statement wholeheartedly, I think he is probably talking about New Century.

 

wow matt

the lack of logic in that statement

so if the government wants to constantly add more and more bureacracy, rules and regulations, its YOUR fault if it costs you more, not really the type of thinking i expect from non-liberals

my issue with elogs has nothing to do with what it costs the company but how it is nothing more than an unnecessary monitoring and control device which affects the revenue of the driver (not the company)

the fact that i am trusted to drive 80k lbs of material across public highways, but i need to be told when to go to bed is a bit much. however, we have survived this. with the elogs, it puts concrete rules on a fluid industry, and it just wont work

dont give me the "legal" aspect of it, walmart was legal in jersey and he killed someone, LEGAL DOES NOT MEAN SAFE

i would urge everyone to drive safe, courteous and get the job done you are being paid to do, without nanny state, your dispatcher or even DOT dictating how you should do it

because you need 10hrs of sleep does not mean everyone does
because a shipper screws up your day does not mean you have to drive ILLEGAL just to get to a truckstop
because you have 30miles from home does not mean you have to park on the shoulder because a computer tells you that you are unsafe to drive

i dont know what is so hard about this

drive when rested, sleep when tired, its just that simple

if drivers would stand up to their dispatchers who want to drive them like a bunch of mules, maybe we wouldnt have this problem
if drivers would demand a decent pay, maybe we wouldnt have this problem

but dictating how i do my job with a computer is not the solution

 

I really don't have any problem with most of your post, and I am sure that you, I, and most on here may very well not need any supervision whatsoever, fine, what about the other 50% of this industry that leaves piss bottles at the fuel island, doesn't have the common sense to shower or change their clothes for a week or more at a time, throws garbage out their window when parked, have terrible road manners, takes a #### behind their trailer instead of walking to the RR, or takes a piss in an open paved parking lot in plain sight of the public?

Go ahead and tell me how you would trust the judgment of these individuals to be safe, stop when tired, or use good judgment when on the road. E-logs won't stop them from all of the other disgusting things they do, but it will outline an issue or show a pattern of blatant disregard for the rules of the road, and if the company they drive for continually looks the other way at some point it will catch up to them.

The plain and simple truth is, there are a LOT of people that drive commercially that probably shouldn't be, something needs to be done, and it sounds like your solution for EVERYBODY is to just be on the honor system and make it a free for all, I just can't buy that, sorry, there are just too many out there that lack that type of common sense.

 

the 14 hour rule is the problem not elogs.no flexibility

 

Alright dudes, for real now. The elogs isn't causing the delay its just recording things as they happen. Just because you are ok fudging paper doesn't make the delays disappear. In my worthless opinion, too much fudging is a reason for the FMCSA wanting to push the ELF mandate through. Once the company figures out that you're comfortable taking liberties with your coloring book they'll use that to their advantage at your expense.

 

Hopefully when the construction is done it will be better