what happens when out of hours at receiver?

Guess someone learned something new today.

 

its not labor laws, its the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations. its not a state thing. its the same reason your company cant fire you if you are sick or fatigued. driving when its illegal isnt doing your company a favor, ask them, a tow driver moving you 3 miles is much cheaper than you and your company sharing an HOS violation ticket.

 

good luck using this.....it seems possible if you are bobtailing it would work..

 

not really, you try it, ill watch...... i love having to argue the point that you should protect your cdl, so you can maintain your employment...

 

As I said, the circumstances are limited. I prefer to avoid this situation as much as possible because the risk almost always outweighs the reward. At Walmart Transportation, they will hammer us for going one minute over the 11/14 if driving. I have already been in the situation where I had to stop for a 10 hour break at a Walmart store when I was less than 2 miles from my home DC due to being out of hours. Protecting my CDL and job is more important than a little convenience at times.

 

It is used quite frequently and can be done so legitimately. However, if the posts on this forum are any indication, the vast majority of drivers use in incorrectly. If following the guidance (as previously posted), then the CMV must not be "laden." While you might assume that means no trailer, the FMCSA does not give a definition of "laden" (at least, not one that I have been able to find over the last seven-or-so years) so some may interpret it as an empty trailer. Bobtail would likely remove any doubt.

It can be used (for the purposes stated in the Guidance and not for the purpose of advancing the CMV) in excess of a driver's 11/14/70 unless the driver has been put OOS.

Fortunately, the issue of personal use is much better defined in the Canadian regulations, something they should do with the U.S. regulations to reduce or eliminate confusion and abuse.

 

exactly. "laden" is a vague term. everyone here has pulled an empty trailer to spot at a shipper. is that a load? i would say yes.there is a reason that you dont see bobtails whizzing in and out of the truckstops every night.

 

Just show some empathy for a moment. If you owned a business and had a punk ### little #### pulling obnoxious stunts like that would you see the person as an asset to the company or a pain in your side that you will dispose of when you get around to it?Don't talk to me about fmcsr or any other nonsense. Your posts suggest that you see the world from a black and white lense. I used to be like you, and still am in a lot of ways. But i am breaking out of it, because that is not the world we live in. It isnt reality.

 

Spotting an empty trailer at a shipper is the very definition of driving / on-duty. Being connected to that same empty trailer when driving over to Walmart to get some groceries and driving back to the truck stop / preferred parking spot, or doing likewise by going to a restaurant, is not. If you really want your head to explode, a driver can even go get and transport alcohol when under PC.

This is irrelevant. It doesn't matter to me what anyone else does.

 

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to have alcohol in a commercial vehicle.