Do you shutdown when the 14 hour clock is up no matter what?

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  1. JJKid

    JJKid Medium Load Member

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    AMEN. Lol.
     
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  3. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Only 50% of the people here are even qualified to comment.
     
  4. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Running on e-logs you are shut down for the night, you can't drive past 14 hours. You can WORK past 14 hours, just not drive. If you are at the receiver you can continue to log On Duty time to make the delivery and drive out to find a parking space on the street as long as it's within a mile or so (after which your e-log system will automatically kick you to driving status).

    As "wore out" noted, you should have communicated much earlier that 20 miles to go that you are going to be late. I try to keep my company and the customer updated on whether I'll be late as SOON as I know. The sooner the better. If you communicate early then the customer can rearrange their schedule and they appreciate being updated and knowing the shipment will arrive safe.

    Rather than taking a 10 you have the option to take 8 hours in the sleeper berth to get back the balance of your 11 and 14 in order to make an earlier delivery.

    One side note regarding how you run that can impact your ability to make on time deliveries, try not to get yourself "hard up" against your 14. By that I mean you have 3 hours more on your 14 hour clock than your 11 hour clock. I'm a trainer, and some of my trainees have a little difficulty with the concept that taking a lot of long breaks during the day chews up that extra three hours in a hurry, then they are "hard up against their 14" and when it comes time to find a parking spot for the night or making a delivery then you are going to run out of options in a hurry. Sometimes if you are delayed at a shipper or receiver that three hours will get chewed up and it doesn't matter if you "keep the left door closed" or not, you are hard up against that 14 no matter what.

    Limit your Off Duty time and your On Duty time and keep that extra three hours as a buffer as much as possible.
     
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  5. Tall Mike

    Tall Mike Road Train Member

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    rank,

    that 359 in your sig is bad ###..
     
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  6. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    If I were running paper logs, I wouldn't think twice about it. YEP......I am making the appointment.
     
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  7. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Thank you driver
     
  8. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Oh really and are you saying im one of the 50% that isn't?Well you know there is an iggy button,use it.
     
  9. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Amen to that. It's a whole different ball of wax with e-logs.

    The nanny will start barking at you when you have one hour left, then 30 minutes left, then 15 minutes, then she'll go absolutely ####### if the truck is moving past your 8, 11, 14, or 70. Leaves a red line instead of a blue line on #3 on your HOS log as well. Then Safety will get an automated violation report and you are at risk if a DOT trooper audits you anytime within the next 7-8 days.

    There ARE ways to hack around it. Like you can park the truck, log to Off Duty, then drive for two miles and park the truck, immediately change status to Off Duty and sit for five minutes, repeat until you get to your destination. Or you can creep along at less than 10 mph and park it before you've gone a mile, sit for a minute or five and repeat. Thing is that the e-log also notes your position, so trying to hack around a 20 mile change of location will be noticed as well.

    Oh, and I've NEVER hacked around the system.... ;)
     
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  10. Town Drunk

    Town Drunk Light Load Member

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    They can do an audit and look at any logs within the last 6 months, then after the 6 months you are safe from any audit.
     
  11. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    Mine doesn't put a red line on my graph. We use Qualcomm. She doesn't go crazy, just says your name and that you have violated your hours of service regulations then shuts up. The red triangle on the Qualcomm just blinks until you clear the violation message
     
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