FALSE LOG BOOK VIOLATION: Two Dates On One Page.

Oops sorry I misread, thought this happened in Mountain Home, Idaho

 

Didn't happen in ID... happened in OR according to the logs & violation.

But OR likes paid fines too.

 

Thank you, I didn’t open the PDF.
Cascade locks Eastbound? Run HWY-14 on the WA side, and cross the river back to I-84 at biggs jnct. That Eastbound cascade locks is a real nitpicking bunch. Hood river court is not a driver friendly place either. Seriously I haven’t been through that scale for years!

 

First off, the officer who gave your driver a ticket is a jerk. There's no reason to put someone out of service for what is clearly a "form and manner" violation. I'd fight the violation on that basis.

That being said, your driver DIDN'T correctly fill out his logs and therefore should either get a "form and manner" violation or at least be forced to correct his log before being allowed to leave the scalehouse.

It's been awhile since I had to do paper logs but since I keep paper logbook on hand in case my e-logs go down I drew up a quick example of how to properly log a 34 hour reset. For this example let's say I started my reset at 8pm on 11/18, was off all day 11/19 and went back on duty after 6 am on 11/20. Logs for the 18th and 20th are not important because they would be done exactly like normal... Full logs for both days including the off duty time at the end or beginning of the shift. The log for the 19th should look like this: (Pardon the crappy handwriting)



Notice there's no indication of the reset or either of the other days involved in the reset. Then all he would have to do to show the reset was complete is drop a flag at 6am on 11/20 (the third day).

No offense to your driver but this is pretty basic stuff. Logbook errors like that are one of the big income (fine) producers for most states. Fight the violation in court but make sure your driver knows what he's doing so he doesn't have to worry about this happening again.

 

I would be less concerned with this issue and pay fine and move on but since he has admitted to doing in past need to go look for past violations. The OOS plus the fact it appears as though the driver is cooking the books would get his and if you have other drivers audit everything. This may be small potatoes in a full DOT audit. Spend your time getting house in order and tell driver to check out here to do basic logging.

 

OP, the title of your thread is misleading. It's not two dates in one page which is acceptable. It's one day in two pages which is not.

Have any super truckers here ever put one day in two pages? (Other than to cheat) I haven't, in twenty years I can't think of a reason to do that.

As far as intent, that's what log books are for. To show your intent in clear and understandable format. If the officer can't make sense of it then you have a problem.

 

Just let a super trucker see phone drives truck much better then uses a smartphone. In 1984 according to this story had same day on 3 pages of 5 log books.

I should have asked why 5 but I guess he would be showing legal in 1 of them no matter the situation.

 

Driver had 3/16 on two different logs, that is a violation! You can put multi-dates on one log, as in
3/10-3/16, but the dates on the prior log will have to be 3/09 and the date on the next log will have to be 3/17, ticket is justified

 

Sorry you are incorrect

 

What's incorrect, your comprehension? What I wrote just concerns the reset and not the rest of the 14th and 16th.