DD15 455HP vs DD15 560HP

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  1. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    on a hill, the high powered motor will complete the hill fast and will use more fuel. that's why big companies don't use high powered motors.
     
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  3. Star4900

    Star4900 Medium Load Member

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    Sorry. I can't agree. My big motors are getting way better fuel mileage than the small ones. Even with drivers on them.
     
  4. Steve62

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    Well last week I did a rounder with dd16 600hp 2050 torque combined loaded and empty. 49 litres per 100km. This week I did the same rounder with a dd15 565hp 1850 torque. 47 litres per 100 km. the dd16 is much nicer to drive w/less shifting. The rounder was 657km half loaded half empty. The load is super B fuel tanks 63,500 is max we run um around 63,000.

    If buying a truck I would go for the bigger motor!

    Just though I would add this is Northern BC lots of mountains lol
     
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  5. Cowpie1

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    mhyn, your contention is true, but your analysis is flawed. While the gallon per hour usage rate of a more powerful engine is indeed more than the lesser powered engine, it also is take substantially less time to get over the hill. The actual fuel used in the total hill climb more often is less with the higher powered motor simply because it was at max fuel consumption for substantially less time.

    example: the lesser powered motor might use about 24 gal per hour / .4 gal per min under full load. and it takes, say, 30 seconds to climb a particular grade. For a total fuel consumption of .2 gallons of fuel to get over that hill.

    Now we take a higher powered motor. It has a higher fuel consumption rate of, say, 26.5 gal / hr or .44 gal / min. But in this case, it only takes 20 seconds instead of 30 to get over the hill, using .13 gallons of fuel to do it, so there was a net savings in fuel of .07 gallons. Do that day after day after day, and the higher powered motor actually comes out ahead.

    Of course, this is all dependent on a driver knowing how to actually drive and not just be a steering wheel holder. And keep in mind, fleet choices are motivated by many factors including insurance companies and motivations of truck OEM's to move various configurations of their pet products.
     
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  6. Oscar the KW

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    No, they don't use big hp motors because the drivers would tear the hell out of the driveline.
     
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  7. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    they don't care of drivelines ))) all trucks are new and under warranty. however day care of fuel saving and it a priority
     
  8. Star4900

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    Small motor equals.......cheap to buy due to lighter driveline, cheap extended warranties due to lighter driveline, and less chance of the "new breed" professional tearing it up as Oscar said.
     
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  9. 25(2)+2

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    I'm going by the transmission model here, but I doubt they coupled a FR15210B to a 560 horsepower 1850 torque engine, and all of the 560s had that much torque from the specifications I have read.

    Assuming the odometer mileage is correct on both, that one would be the one to buy if price was the same or similar.

    I'm driving a 2013 with 455/1550 and FRO15210B with 3.42 rears. I'd be happier with a little taller ratio myself, from driving this thing, but maybe it would have been too much. It figures out to be right on by calculation from the tables for a given RPM at a given speed in both overdrive and in 9th(direct)
     
  10. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    560 horsepower 1850 torque engine would have FR16210B or FR18210B.. not FR15210B

    almost all dd15 engines have label showing 560hp. the truth is they are not setup for 560hp. the glowbox label shows actual hp and torque.
     
  11. Shaggy76

    Shaggy76 Heavy Load Member

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    I can tell you that the top truck weighs more with that heavier Meritor rear end on it. If wieght is a factor, yu'll lose 1000-1500 lbs on the top truck from the heavier rear end.
     
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