Double Yellow's Company Driver to Independent Thread

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Oooh! Goody! A derailment ! My turn!

    When I came here 11 years ago, I was basically considered a 16 year old kid. They called it "thin credit file".

    I had no DMV record, good or bad, no credit good or bad - nothing.

    So, I started from the bottom. Secured $500 credit card, for 1 year. Small unsecured credit card from there. Took advantage of 'predatory lending', with a substantial cash downpayment in 2006 or 2007 to buy $38,000 house. Paid it off in 13 months. Bought another . . . then another.

    Grew credit score to 800 in a few years and maintained it. So what, you say. I say - great country - anybody can do it. Had I been born here, not so sure. Maybe a few foolish mistakes of youth would have had me posting threads on here about "Who will take me with a drug felony or DUI?" Don't know - parallel universe stuff.

    When screening tenants for the rentals, we learned a lot. Tenants are often renting because they can't afford or qualify to buy. The ones with good credit moved on after a year because they had saved to buy a house. The ones with bad credit, if you rang their employer, friends, pastor - often turned out to be great tenants. Some like @Cranky Yankee had had their credit decimated by medical bills. Some had simply struggled for years raising children responsibly and working minimum wage or average jobs. We found it best to take an overall snapshot rather than figures alone.

    The worst ones were two who owned a diner in town - nice looking place, turned out to be the trashiest M.F'ers you evr came across. Unloaded 3 pickup trucks worth of garbage from the house when they finally left, owing us 2 months rent. I never ate there - or recommended the place.
     
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  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Let's try this again(last post got deleted)

    Hey Blair, where are you from originally?

    Ps. Mr or ms moderator, while it was absolutely juvenile, the nick name I used for blair was in no way shape or form hostile or inflammatory. If you read back through the thread you will see the intent was good fun. Either way, I will not use it again, I just want to be clear so you don't think I was picking a fight with him.
     
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  4. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    Anybody else feel like your watching the movie "Groundhog Day"?
     
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  6. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    LOL, I understand completely spyder, I have more screwed up posts on here from my tablet when I'm on the road than I can count!
     
  7. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    New Zealand. Yes, the phone is frustrating. No, the nickname wasn't that humorous. Yes - another lesson that if you recieve charity, you're liable to regret it.

    Loved Groundhog Day.

    @double yellow - come and save your thread, the hijackers are off course now!
     
  8. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Well I apologize. When you told us the story, I assumed you thought it was funny or you wouldn't of shared it.
     
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  9. truckon

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    Is that paying it in full? Or with payments?

    I've had good credit and bad credit and it never seemed to affect my rates year to year.
     
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  10. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Not just insurance, they pay more for cars, houses, credit cards, and may have difficulty getting a better job.

    Only the rich can afford bad credit.

    There is also a correlation between bad credit and employees who are terminated, but the correlation is much weaker and only exists for certain categories (no correlation with people who were late 30 days, but a weak correlation with those who are late 180+ days).

    Insurance underwriting is a fascinating subject (imo -- @Skate-Board would probably watch paint dry). Warren Buffett became a billionaire investing in insurance, particularly GEICO. What made GEICO different (at least in 1951) was that it was available only to government employees -- a group that tends to be much more responsible than the general population. Fewer claims = more profit...

    Not at all. It is only looking at claim cost vs credit score. The poor slob in the old beater managed to have a higher average claim than the guy in a new BMW -- yet which costs more to replace when totaled?

    Credit score is just one factor. Equipment is another & does affect insurance rates as well.


    Unless she has someone else managing her money, I can almost guarantee her credit is blemished. I mean what are the odds that someone who misses court appearances pays every bill on time?

    That really sucks. The thing with models is that they ignore individual situations like yours. Vietnam was fought based on models -- "if we kill 10 times as many guys as we lose, we will win."

    Like Blair, I'm also a landlord and my best tenant had a banged up credit score. Everything was great until bam bills started going unpaid (about 3 years ago prior to my renting to them). After that, they started paying everything off and on time. Turns out the wife had twins prematurely and they spent a long time in the NICU.

    One time setback, and they've been great tenants since.

    A lesser example is zip codes. About 10 years ago the post office split the area of my zip code into 2. My zip code changed and my auto insurance went up even though I never moved.

    So it is imperfect, but it is a better predictor than nothing. Ever since the 90's insurance has become a very competitive business & most companies make little to no money on.the underwriting (instead making their money on investing that money until they have to pay a claim).
    In full. With payments it was ridiculously usurious -- like over $10,000 cumulative
    Yeah my previous insurer (actually a risk retention group) did not even run my credit (in CA they have to get your consent before they do).

    But my new insurer, Progressive, is rated much more highly and has more stringent standards (like limits on CSA points and OOS orders).

    Also, in the FTC document they did mention that credit reporting was a good predictor of a new client, but if a customer has been with a company a while their own individual past performance was a better indicator.
     
  11. RedForeman

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    Mostly true. I'd beg to differ that it's because government employees tend to have much greater job security and benefit packages. Government always grows, and since they're not sensitive to profits, the sky's the limit when it comes to compensation packages for employees. No such thing as worrying about loss. Revenue shortfall? Let's have a vote and find some more revenue. Ask my wife why she's been employed by or contracted to municipal governments for her 30 yr career and that will be the first thing mentioned.

    So enough of that boring stuff. How's the truck doing, now that you've had it out for a couple days?
     
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