"SINGLE AXLE TRACTOR" How different does it handle? ??

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dirtjersey, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

    12,191
    90,590
    Jun 13, 2011
    PNWET
    0
    Accidental Trucker You are wrong about Oregon weights. Triple trailers can have a gross weight of 105,500# on 7 axles at 100 foot wheelbase. That would be a single drive axle tractor. I drove thrm for 10 years over Government camp and I-5.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    29,147
    158,411
    Jul 7, 2015
    Canuckistan
    0
    I'm guessing that 1mpg gain was based on both loaded and unloaded driving?
     
  4. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

    5,511
    4,420
    Sep 7, 2011
    Pelham N.C.
    0
    Traction has two huge factors foot print( how many square inches of surface area touching the road) and ground pressure ( how much weight you have per square inch) . More tires have more surface area , but half the ground pressure. So if the load was the same , and legal to be pulled by a single axle . The single axle would have twice the ground pressure. On dry flat ground it would be a wash. That said I have had a tandem axle get "hung up" because of the second axle . Not letting the axles flex to remain in contact with the ground. Several manufacturers are pushing 6x2 set ups ( a single drive truck with a tag axle) . These really need to be on lift axles, to improve ground pressure .
     
    KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this.
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    29,147
    158,411
    Jul 7, 2015
    Canuckistan
    0
    Spreading out the weight over more axles has its advantages too. In the early 2000's a lot of loggers in Western Canada went to tri-drive trucks (3 live drive axles, 1 steer. 4 axles total on tractor). My dad said he could barefoot into a lot of places that he had to chain up his tandem drive trucks. I think a lot of that has to do with spreading the weight out over another axle plus having the tractive advantage of 4 more drive tires.
     
  6. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

    5,511
    4,420
    Sep 7, 2011
    Pelham N.C.
    0
    He was floating because the was nothing to grip. Reason you will see farm tractors running up to triple tires per wheel end . Trying to float across freshly turned ground .But both are off road apps.
     
    KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this.
  7. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    29,147
    158,411
    Jul 7, 2015
    Canuckistan
    0
    There's a guy in Western Alberta who had a custom Peterbilt with 4 live drive axles and single steer axle. There's a few pics of it on Hank's Truck Forum. I'd post a pic of it but he'd prefer that the images not be distributed off his website. Just thought it was pretty gnarly. I think he was allowed to operate it on the highway with an OD permit but I can't confirm that 100%
     
  8. upnorthwpg

    upnorthwpg Road Train Member

    1,746
    2,529
    Sep 23, 2011
    0
    I run 105,500 gross every night in North Dakota with a single axle and triples. All depends on the state.
     
    okiedokie Thanks this.
  9. S M D

    S M D Road Train Member

    2,396
    3,406
    Mar 15, 2012
    sacramento ca
    0
    Here is what I drove the first day we got it and the first time I ever driven a single axle... Goose neck with no brakes and a lot of snow

    Edit: turns on a dime rides stiffer because of the single axle absorbing every pebble

    [​IMG]
     
  10. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,842
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0

    Correct, it was an average based on our IFTA miles, running unloaded was probably better than 1mpg, running loaded probably a bit worse? But that is what it worked out to. Also keep in mind "singling out" a tandem truck you keep the original rear drive axle, when you order as S/A truck, you get the RS230 that #### rear is about half again the size and weight of a regular half a tandem set.

    I always wondered how much more parasitic loss that axle has over a standard rear.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2015
  11. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

    3,351
    7,369
    Jun 4, 2015
    0
    http://www.odot.state.or.us/forms/motcarr/od/2805.pdf

    From the Oregon extended weight permit:

    "Power units must be equipped with a tandem drive axle except: Power units of doubles placed into service prior toApril 1, 1983, may have a single drive axle and operate over 80,000 pounds."

    A little awkwardly worded, but abundantly clear that single drive axle trucks are no longer legal, unless grandfathered in.
     
    Toomanybikes and okiedokie Thank this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.