Double Yellow's Company Driver to Independent Thread

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Yeah, I've factored the maintenance difference into my net.

    I just think a lot of guys work 30 hours in the "office" and 30 hours behind the wheel and think they're doing it better than someone netting the same driving 55 hours and doing office stuff for 5. I'd rather listen to another 2 audiobooks and watch passing scenery than listening to elevator hold music staring at a truckstop parking lot... Of course many of those guys are at their house when doing the office stuff and that makes a big difference vs being at a truckstop...


    In an OK market (like now) I don't think I lose much. The main difference is the guy holding out puts himself in a better position to "get lucky" on that rare obscene load & I don't... But as freight picks up leading to Christmas, I do plan to switch back to more of the last minute expedite model.

    I've noticed that by doing a great job I have people calling me offering more than I could probably get sitting around for a day. I don't think you get those calls if you're always gouging out your counterpart's eyeballs.

    What's they key to great service? I'm reminded of my high school's mock trial. We had 2 coaches: a deputy DA (who clearly drew the short straw at the office), and a prominent private attorney whose daughter was in my class. I was supposed to give the opening statement and I am a terrible public speaker. The deputy DA kept giving advice as frazzled as his wardrobe -- "don't forget x technical point, finish with y, etc." When he was done, the private attorney rolled his eyes, pulled me aside, and said "forget all that. Tell em what you're going to say. Say it. And then tell em what you said. That's all there is to it!"

    He was right, but I've discovered that his advice applies more broadly. My customers are pleasantly amazed when I tell em what I'm going to do, do it, and then tell em what I've done...
     
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  3. icsheeple

    icsheeple Trailing the Herd

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    I'm with DY on the philosophy of running. Trying to drive my rates up takes just as much time and effort. You sit around all day looking for great paying loads to book, and that moment you took a break to eat or run an errand and lost a load alert.

    I'd rather book the best I can find after looking for a bit or with a broker I've dealt with before and move on, than sit all day worrying and hoping I cash in on a great rate. One thing I've learned to do is after booking my load, I don't keep looking to see if I could have done better holding out. Seems like right after I book for $2.50 a $3 per mile hits the board and I've seen it enough to not want to see it again. Ugh
     
  4. rollin coal

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    I think you guys miss the point on the big score. I get that it's no fun sitting around in a truck stop waiting, waiting, waiting. What I like to do is the big score on the load from home. Granted not everyone lives in an area where the can do that. The way it is around here lately not even sure that I will be for a while longer. After I score that one I can spend about 10-15 minutes before the rush to go load it and check on follow up loads. Usually I will set up one or more follow up loads very quickly after the good score. This is much different than when I first started. I used to wait for scores everywhere gnashing my teeth. I learned it's much easier to build around a really good load or 2 in the course of a week while keeping myself busy that i'm not sitting around twiddling my thumbs after every delivery.
     
  5. Skate-Board

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    I live in NH so I score big when I head home. When I leave it's usually $1.25 on a long run so I dead head 600 miles to Hubbard, OH.

    I have in the past set a $2.00 min per mile rate for at least a 1,000 mile run. That hasn't been working out to well lately. I find myself sitting for days and days waiting for $.30 cents more per mile when in fact I'm losing $400 to $600 in profit if I was running.

    I just took a LONG run to CA for $1.60 a mile and realized I have a hell of a lot more money in my pocket instead of chasing a higher paid load. So, screw it. My standards have been lowered.

    I'm sitting 50 miles from home right now waiting to unload. It's part of a cell tower and weighs 4,000 pounds. Paid $2.20 a mile on 1,600 miles.

    As far as quality of service and all that, it's BS. You want the load or not, this is what it pays.
     
  6. spyder7723

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    A buck sixty all the way to cali? Ouch. I know rates have dropped, but ouch. That's rough. I'd expect that run to pay about 20cpm more, and that's after Mercer takes their cut.
     
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  7. dirthaller

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    Somewhere out there.....there are 10,000 "owner operators" doing it...right now...as we speak...for $1.10....
     
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  8. DUNE-T

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    You havent seen the rates lately, have you? :D
     
  9. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Would you have done it for $1.90 last year at this time? long run...

    Last year my fuel costs were 30cpm higher than they are now. I have to keep reminding myself that when I think of $2/mile as a baseline anchor. That should be $1.70 now...
     
  10. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    This time last year? No way. And today no way. Yes fuel has come down, and it's reflected in rates, along with a general slow down in shipping dropping rates even more. That being said, I'm seeing rates from the east and Midwest to cali at 1.85 truck rate. the short haul and regional stuff I mostly run is paying just under two bucks. About thirty cents less than last year. Those are the to the truck rates I'm seeing at Mercer, so when you guys with your own authority(and the extra expenses it incurs) are pulling for less, it makes me wonder why.
     
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  11. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Some people have their own authority not just for money...
     
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