gear ratio and axle specs

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by fredrd, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. fredrd

    fredrd Light Load Member

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    Ok, with that formula my other truck has maxxforce 10 350hp
    And eaton 10 speed
    3.90 gears and low pro
    , my rpm should be 2500 @75mph
    But it's 1850
     
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  3. T800H

    T800H Medium Load Member

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    automatic trans is out of my knowledge, unless I can get my self educated, but before I do that there's guys here that can help you right away, like Pedigreed Bulldog.

    Just saying but you probably got more information from Pedigreed Bulldog in the last two posts than you ever did from the dealer that's trying to sell you a truck.

    pay attention to all his numbers there's a lot of sense on them, I will always try to get a bit taller rear gear, meaning lower numbers, for fuel eco, power band and engine life.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    If your Eaton 10 speed was a direct-drive (1:1 ratio) transmission, you would be at 2500 rpm's @ 75 mph. It isn't, though. It is a .74:1 overdrive, which puts you around that 1800-1850 range.

    The Allison transmission you are spec'ing has a 4th gear of 1:1, a .5th gear of 75:1, and a 6th gear of .65:1.
     
  5. fredrd

    fredrd Light Load Member

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    Ok, I will opt for something in the 4.30-4.50 range, whatever is the best for the powerband. With that said, do I want to go with lp or 11r? 11r will take more torque to turn? Which tires do you prefer?

    If I change my 10 wheeler from lp to 11r will it help me or hurt me?
    3.90 gears and eaton 10 spd
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Help or hurt depends upon what you're trying to get out of the change. The change to 11R will increase your ride height about an inch and lower your engine speed by about 85 rpm @ 75 mph in the 10 wheeler...the equivalent of changing the 3.90 rear gear to a 3.71 ratio and keeping the low profile tires. The low profile tires are going to be easier to find on the road if you have problems, because that's what most fleets are using these days...but if you want to make that change and tires are due to be replaced anyway, it is pretty much a "free" change since you're buying tires anyway.
     
  7. fredrd

    fredrd Light Load Member

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    So it would give me more fuel economy and make things on the low end torque worse right?
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Depends upon where the engine runs most efficiently and your typical cruising speed. You want make it so both can happen at the same time.

    One more consideration is if you spec too low of a rear gear (like that 5.xx you had been talking about) and take advantage of the .65:1 overdrive to run 75 mph despite the gearing, you'd better have a temp gauge on that rear axle to make sure you aren't getting it too hot.
     
  9. fredrd

    fredrd Light Load Member

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    Think I'm gonna go with the 4.89
    5.xx is out of the question
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Your truck, your decision. With the .65:1 overdrive, it'll work...but you may find it does better on fuel and performance a little slower than the 75 mph you say you like to cruise at...probably looking at a reasonable truck for running 65-70 mph, though, where the engine is closer to it's peak torque instead of on the downhill side of the curve. It should run 75, though, if that's what you're after.
     
  11. fredrd

    fredrd Light Load Member

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    Ok, you think it will struggle to do 75 on flat incline? Dealer said it calc speed was 78 with 4.89 gears, but we know how reliable they are .
    For the rear end the tried to give me a 23k meritor and international 20k air ride but I would rather have the 21k meritor and 33k air ride wouldn't I?
    Do I need a driver controlled locking differential?
     
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