Kevin Rutherfrauds $200000 Signature glider truck has complete engine failure!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bobby Barkert, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    You raise a great question! Everything seems fishy here.

    First, I have avoided saying this because of censors, and I know no other way of putting this, but this truck was KR's wet dream of fuel mileage. Almost every trick to get better mileage was on this truck, and somebody else paid for it. That somebody else was a greenhorn with a lot of money.

    The problem was much of it is snake oil, and much of it was improperly applied. Not sending the power through 2 differentials should saved fuel, but being forced to double the frame added more weight than it saved.

    Bruce's ecm defeats the safeties, and you need to have a driver who knows how to drive a mechanical engine. Jeff pointed out that the Series 60 is a very reliable engine, and they should go 1/2 million even with a driver who doesn't know what he is doing.

    Then, when it is clear that somebody failed to take due dillegence, he doesn't sue that somebody, and pays another $50,000 to get it fixed right?
     
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  3. tommymonza

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    Your absolutely correct.
     
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    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    If sand entered the motor thru the oil fill it would have to go thru the oil filter before it was pumped to the crank.

    For sand to to erroneously find itself I between the crank and the bearings without going thru the pump would be almost impossible.

    As far as sand be sucked into the air filter, it would simply enter the combustion chamber , get compressed and exhausted.

    Might scar up the cylinder walls and eventually stick the rings . But once again nearly impossible for it to end up between the crank and bearings.
     
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  5. tommymonza

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    We don't know if a lawsuit is not looming.
     
  6. wore out

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    Absolutely not, oil goes thru the filter last then returned to sump. In theory sump is always clean oil.

    From the bearing pics I seen it was dirty installation, lugging and timing cause bearing wear but it's smooth even bearing wear across the surface not scratches. I can't say if PP did it or the original rebuilder if a running engine was tore down to add the micro blue bearings that never appeared. Which in my opinion was asinine, that voided the factory warranty right there
     
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  7. spyder7723

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    Yep. The whole thing stinks of fish. A lot of claims of fraud and yet no evidence to back them up.

    In my opinion it all boils down to jeff really hasn't a clue about how a diesel engine works and ordered things on his truck that require an operator to have that clue: Watch the gauges, especially oil pressure, pyro, boost, and fluid temps, don't lug or over rev the engine, etc etc. Like you said, the guy is a total greenhorn and needed the oem ecm programming to keep him from causing damage and yet he made the decision he didn't need those and now wants to blame the shop that did exactly what he paid them to do.

    As far as the micro blue stuff, i don't believe for a second that pp charged him for it and then didn't do it. If that was true he has an the strongest case any civil court room has seen. What i think is more likely is he didn't get the micro blue, and wasnt charged for it. There was a communication failure, and he did not take the time to make sure everyone was clear on what he wanted. I'm betting he was probably very hands off in the whole process and thought kr was doing all the communication with the shop.
     
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  8. pearcetrucking

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    He posted photos Spyder. It's clear. Not claims.
     
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    And that was another issue. They gave him a turned up 200k truck with no pyrometer! The most important part and they left it off! IMO everyone involved in this project was a greenhorn pretending to be something else.
     
  10. spyder7723

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    They will sell you anything you want. It is up to the buyer to know what to order on a truck.
    He depended on others to tell him what he needed instead of taking the initiative to research and decide for himself.
     
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    Obviously it's not quite so clear or he would have no problem using the court system to get his money back. What do the pictures show? A bearing with no microblue? Ok, so where is the picture of the invoice showing he was charged for the microblue?
     
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