All of this being said, my stay at Werner wasn't even particularly terrible, as trucking gigs go. Which says something truly awful about the industry in general...
Am I making a mistake leaving Werner?
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i heard his sons ran it like jerks, in fact there is a rumor that CL torched one of his kids ferrari right in the terminal parking lot. apparently he stuffed a rag in the gas tank and torched it. he did come back as CEO, and i know he stepped back down from that position which is now derek leathers. from what i have been told he still has some control of what goes on. apparently his sons are banished from ever running the company (as long as he is alive), i imagine when he eventually dies his sons will regain full control and it will get really bad again and stay that way. i have heard that its far from great but used to be allot worse.
i imagine that the hotel is a scam between werner and quality inn. i really could not comprehend why the were bringing more students in while they could not effectively accommodate the ones they had with trainers to begin with. im sure the local take out places make big bucks on werner students because that's really all you can get. crappy take out food, and you have to pay delivery. not much good about it. at one time, i though werner secretly that hotel because of the volume of students that go into there. it would make more sense.
they really could make it better for the students but they choose not to. they dont care
1. allow people to bring there own personal cars. after they return and test out, let them take their personal car home.
2. vet your trainers, make sure they are selecting experienced drivers only. guys that have 10 or more years driving. make sure they are giving quality instruction
3. stop running students as a team. this is not training and its dangerous with the motoring public having inexperienced, not yet trained drivers behind the wheel. dangerous for the students, trainers, and motoring public. add to this you expect a student to be able to sleep in a moving truck does not make for proper sleep.
4. find some way to give students SOME normal home-time during training. i was gone 8 weeks. it was hell. i have a wife and child at home.
5. dont assume that people are happy to sit and do nothing for two weeks or more just because they are being paid. im there to learn how to drive a truck and start a career not sit around.
6. a trainer should not have an automatic truck, i need to become proficient shifting as part of my job. can i do it, yes but am i good at it..... not really i needed practice.
7. make sure your trainers are giving proper backing and qualcomm instruction. this also falls under the heading of the team dispatch of students non-sense. trainers care more about how much blood they can suck out of students then they do about training them.
8. stop giving trainers students mileage. a trainer should be well paid they are supposed to be teachers....... however pay them a flat training salary so they have no incentive to simple run up miles. falls under the heading of quality training.
my review of their training program..... it is dangerous, it does not teach properly, and it sets students up for failure when they get on their own. students are expected to teach themselves for the most part. most trainers arent going to train when its setup like this.
sure i know they have to move freight, but its better to take the time and money to teach people effectively so they have a safe, reliable driver that does not damage equipment, freight, company image and PR, kill people, ect ect ect..
i know a long post. how many people see the light right after they get assigned their own truck and do exactly as i have done. seek out another company as soon as they have a few months with them, jump ship and take whatever time and training they have with them?
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If that's true, than who does the money for all their "CDL mill" training go to? -
its all part of the same scam anyways
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In fairness, they did not offer CDL license training, when I was there. They took in recent CDL mill graduates, and made them run team, calling it "training", and collected money from the government for doing so, without having to invest in additional equipment in order to get the extra production. They made money off of the government, the freight - and they would even try to charge the "students" for leaving early, if they did not last a year.
CR England also coerces it's CDL mill graduates (student incentive they do get people their licenses) to then lease a truck, allowing them to make money off of the ensuing bankruptcy of their students, after forcing them to train more fodder for the grinder, in an effort to stave off their own failure.
It should all so totally be illegal. It should be against wage and labor law, it should be against DoT law... but then, somehow, the trucking industry managed to exempt itself from labor law, and it will soon exempt itself from DoT regulation, by eliminating drivers from the trucks, entirely... so at this point, even if it were possible to hold them to account for their decades of criminal behavior, the point of doing so has been lost. Too many have gotten away with too much at the expense of so many others for so long, that it would be like righting the wrongs against the American Indian. Most of the victims are long past the possibility of recovering from the wrongs done to them, and the perpetrators are either dead, or so close to it that there isn't really anything you can do to them, to visit proportionate suffering back upon them, for what they have done. They won, by staying ahead of their victims until it no longer mattered. -
the government i suppose? where in the government, i dont know. does the DOT subsidize them? i wonder how much money they made off of me, considering im leaving before taking a truck and going somewhere else? does wadhams somehow get the money for training me (they are going to assign me a trainer)? or does poor old wadhams with there 300 trucks not get the same kind of grant money as a mega? frankly i dont care if a smaller company gets some subsidy to train me, they probably are going to provide quality training. everything they told me points in that direction.
the really comical thing about it all, my trainer tried to convince me that werner invests money in their students. why would they invest massive amounts of money in so many people they bring in that dont stay. they have a very high turn-over rate. i really had my doubts they were investing any money. he made it sound like they paid for everything. it just didnt compute. either my trainer was just a serious dolt, OR seriously brainwashed into telling students whatever fish tale he thought he should tell them in order to get them to stay. he said they took the incentive away that trainers used to get for a retention bonus, so why the hell should he care anyways? -
Wow... autocorrect screwed that all up... "since they do get students their licenses"...
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they actually tried to charge students that came to them with the CDL in their pocket to begin with for leaving with less then a year like i am. that's absurd, they profit from you being there in the first place. they arent investing a dime. the also profit from you by moving forcing students to run as a team and move the freight faster. they have allot of nerve. perhaps getting them to right all of the wrongs of the past isnt going to happen but perhaps the cycle should be stopped so they cant continue to scam people.
i like to think complete automated trucks are still many years away. frankly i need a job with a living wage and not some other scam AKA the manufacturing job/temp service scam that is being perpetrated on the backs of the american factory worker.
this whole country has gone to h@ll, its ALL bad, it all profits the ultra rich and hurts the working class. this country needs a revolt. the factory worker, the truck driver you name it. -
When I was at swift the scariest people there where the ones who drank the cool aid long ago....
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