I don't know enuff about DAC's but what I found out today is the company I used to work for tells me they reported "incidents" (which I did have) that were preventable on my DAC as required by law.....NO accidents. The company I'm trying to lease on to tells me that they reported "accidents" (which I've never had since I started legally driving 4 wheelers 17 yrs. ago).....oh boy, here we go! Proably find out more monday....someone messed up and I'm gonna pay for it. Thanks for lettn' me vent.
jacked up DAC!!!!
Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by Faber, Oct 24, 2008.
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Is backing a truck into something an "accident" or an "incident"?
I think that any time your truck comes into contact with something that it is not supposed too it is an accident.
Granted, a curb, that you roll over is not a real accident. But if that curb popped the bead on your tire, or bent the rim as you roll over it, it is now an accident.
There is no requirement by law to report to DAC, at least not to my knowelege. DAC is a service that some company's pay to use. It is not a government company, but a for profit company.
Many smaller company's do not use it at all.
This is what it says on there web site. Copied and pasted.
DAC Employment History File
The FMCSA requires employers of commercially licensed drivers (CDLs) to obtain a three-year employment history. Reports from the DAC Employment History File help motor carriers fulfill this requirement quickly and efficiently while providing comprehensive yet objective information.
USIS stores employment histories for over 2,500 companies across the country. Participating members gain access to the file, which contains over 5 million records and grows daily. Objective reports are returned instantly and help fulfill Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) requirements for a three-year employment history. Reports also verify application information, fill employment gaps and may reveal undisclosed past employers. Report details can include reason for leaving, equipment operated, loads hauled, eligibility for rehire, status, driver's experience and number of accidents.Last edited: Oct 25, 2008
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-Why she says they're required to report those, when a previous poster just showed they don't have to, I don't know. (Nor, really, do I care. As I stated they happened....but if they're supposed to be reported as incidents, then that's what they should be reported as....this would obviously have a huge difference of impact on my future employment).
-Her saying they had to report preventable accidents/or incidents was in resoponse to my asking her, "I ran over 200,000 miles for you guys and NEVER damaged anything except company property, why would you report that? I'm not mad, I just want to understand."
-This is just what I've been told by other people....I'm not making up my own opionions here. (these people being the two safety people in charge of reporting/reading DAC information at the two different companies).
-If the occurences where to be reported as accidents....then so be it, what can I do? But if the company safety lady says herself, "These should have been posted as incidents not accidents." Then somebody isn't doing their job correctly at one of the two agencies. I don't know about you, but I always paid for it if I didn't do my job correctly.
-I'll get my DAC, call previous employer mon. (she didn't have time to pull DAC herself Friday, but made her statemets based on looking at my company file, which SHE says is the only info. they would post on my DAC).
-And call to check with possible future employer on the outcome.
Keep ya'll posted if your curious, or for anyone who could stand to be educated by the outcome for ther future use.
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O.K.....for the education of you drivers...
As said in previous posts and in orientation....incidents are viewed as accidents....though not actually by the company....but by DAC and a future employer.
The old company safety lady says she checked into it and there company file lists me as having; 5-preventable-non DOT reportable "incidents" and 0-"accidents."
-Then DAC's computer system uploads the information from theirs and changes it to;
5-preventable-Non DOT reportable "incident/accidents."
-So the statement that, "We view incidents the same as accidents." Isn't correct....they don't, BUT YOUR DAC WILL.
I said to her, "So your telling me that my scraping a bumper on at truck is the same as if I go out in the street and run over a parked car with the trailer?"
-Old companies safety lady replies, "Well, no, not to us it isn't."
My reply, "Well, now to any perspective employer, it is."
-So you guys had the right idea....orientation had the end result correct....same thing.
And I just went from having over 2 years otr, with 5-incidents and managing to keep 0-accidents....to 5 accidents. I may as well just gone down the street and hit 5 cars then scraped a bumper trying to avoid having an actuall accident......
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o.k.....ordered a DAC and am gonna talk to them...(they have someone talk to you, didn't request to fight anything....as the previous employer entered the correct info, Dac changes it to accident because of the term "preventable" before "preventable incident" even though the company safety lady says they have me listed as only having preventable incidents).
-Also am asking for a letter from company stating that they view me as having incidents and no accidents......
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Dear Faber, Just wanted to tell you to check out Q carriers, they require 2 years experience, which you have, and last I knew they did not use dac because they think its crap, like many smaller companies do anyway. Remember that you can put rebuttal in your dac reporting your side fo the story for incidents. They also have a better then average reputation. You wont find them in bad company reports either. I scratched my bumper at maverick on a fence. I did not report it. I polished it off on home time
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I am in a similar situation Faber that I only had 1 incident in 2 years and it was a scraped bumper as well on a fence. I was just wondering what this means for your driving career now are you still able to drive or have you run into a road block meaning you have to get all this taken care of before you can complete orientation and get your truck or lease it on depending which company and route you are going
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