How bad is it? Ran the truck out of fuel.

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  1. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I had a truck that the fuel line where it left the left tank started plugging off. The returns worked fine and the truck ended up running out of fuel. But when I got out of the truck I noticed the left tank was overflowing. Right tank was empty. Ended up putting another tank on it.
     
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  3. missjhawk

    missjhawk Medium Load Member

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    If I did ruin injectors its still covered under my engine warranty not really worried about paying for that right now I was trying to figure out why my truck only ran off right tank causing me to run out of fuel and the left tank almost on half
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Running out of fuel does NOT ruin injectors. Trucks run out all the time and i've yet to hear any get new injectors. I've even done it myself twice. Right close to the pumps so all i had to do was pack some fuel to the truck. Slight squrt of starting fluid and i was running and rolling to the pump.

    Your fuel gauge is usually in the drivers tank. There are hoses that run between the 2 tanks to keep the fuel equalized. Check to make sure the valve or both valves are open. TAnks come with vents so that they suck in air when the fuel drops. Otherwise you create a vacuum and the fuel stops flowing out. Possible for the return lines to plug also. One tank gets the return while the other gets nothing and runs out.

    I'd check the valves to equalize the tanks. That's the most common problem. FL's have levers now. Above the batteries under the drivers door. But they seem to get disconnected a lot for some reason. You can flip either lever and run either side tank empty while the other tank stays full. It's possible the drivers tank might be partially closed.

    I don't know what the other brand trucks would have.
     
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  5. tony97905

    tony97905 Road Train Member

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    You may be right, but during my 20+ years of wrenching you did NOT want to run a CAT C7/C9 out of fuel because it trashed them. Same goes for the Detroit DD series of engines, they can and will wipe injectors out when ran dry. Your mileage may vary.
     
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  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I've only driven one cat engine. That was in a dump truck. The t600 had a d60. The FL had a dd15. Both those ran out in the parking lot so i didn't have to walk much to pack fuel to those.

    I had a FL dump truck i coasted a few miles. Downhill. Don't remember what engine that thing had. It still ran 6 months later before being traded for a new pete dump truck. Same injectors.

    I guess it's possible. But never happened with me.
     
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  7. marmonman

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    You can check the vents easy .
    When you stop at night just stick your tanks to see if they are level .
    Now you just put your caps back on the tanks real loose . In the morning check each side to see if they are both the same level or real close if you are not on level ground .
    If they are still way off then you might have a return line problem.
     
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  8. missjhawk

    missjhawk Medium Load Member

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    I took my truck to a shop in MI because today my truck used fuel off left tank not right like yesterday the only thing they could find was air was getting into my fuel system that the TA that did my pm didn't put filter completely in the cradle, left an o-ring off, and the top was loose they checked my valve & lines and saw no obstruction they figure a big enough air pocket got in my lines causing my fuel system to go crazy . I deliver in flint in the AM an Chicago Thurs AM they want me to check back after getting fuel and running with new filter. That TA in NE struck again. So cross fingers hope my fuel problem is fixed
     
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  9. KeithT1967

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    Some of you people are still living in the 70's. No modern truck I'm aware of has a fuel crossover. Last one I ever saw was on a mid 80's FLD120.

    The fuel draw/return on many modern trucks works on a simple head pressure principle. Both tanks are draw, both tanks are return. The tank that has the most fuel will usually have more head pressure resulting in it supplying the most draw and receiving the least return. This is the reason a plugged up vent will cause a severe imbalance.

    When a vent is restricted pressure builds up in that tank. Since the head pressure will be far greater than the opposite tank it will supply most of the fuel and receive very little return. Final result, one empty, and one half full.
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    #### it that's adding to your problems.

    When you run out of fuel, you replace the filters always. always and always. Don't crank until you did.
     
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  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Park my 07 w9 at an angle and the fuel goes to the lower tank. Filling up the lower tank and emptying the higher tank.

    The 16FL i drove before coming home. Had valves to both tanks. Close one off and run off the other tank. Shut truck down for the night. Open closed valve and both tanks leveled out. The fuel gauge would be in a different position.

    The vent is there to allow air in to the tank as the fuel goes down. Otherwise you create a vacuum.
    Head pressure in a tank. Never heard of it. Crossovers DO exist. It's what keeps both tanks equalized.

    Every truck I've been in has always had a hose running between both tanks.
     
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