Amazon contract with carriers....see Yourself

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  1. hellpatrol

    hellpatrol Light Load Member

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    Could you list the reasons why not?
    I'm not too familiar with these contracts and just ran the numbers. I'd like to make an informed decision. After reading this, I'm probably going stay where I am. My boss will ask though, since I brought up the idea of going to amazon, why not. So I'd like to have an informed answer.
    Thanks again, to everyone, for shining a light on this.
     
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  3. crucar1800

    crucar1800 Light Load Member

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    BRO!! you better take this document OFF the forum. Read page 6 of 26 paragraph 5. There is a confidentiality disclosure. Please do yourself a favor and avoid legal issues. If your first thought is: "well...I do not give a f...k." please reconsider because you most likely will end up giving a f...k after having to confront and afford litigation.
     
  4. FreightlinerGuy

    FreightlinerGuy Medium Load Member

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    ,.,.,.,.

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  5. ReeferOhio

    ReeferOhio Medium Load Member

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    It really comes down to money. I don't really know how they compare to Fedex but I can tell you the best decision I ever made was running my own numbers and finding my own clients. No brokers, no middleman. Just me, and an some employees. Also, you do not run under Amazon's authority. You have your own with insurance, plates, and fuel. Why not find a good customer with good paying freight then? FYI, I was already hauling for my own customers when I was approached by Amazon. If you're going to own a trucking company then own it 100%.
     
  6. crucar1800

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    77 could you please explain me what type of claims are they talking about? Is it about trailer damage? or is it about the cargo?
    If a trailer is sealed why would there be a cargo claim.
     
  7. Largecar359

    Largecar359 Road Train Member

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    Companies like this really show the true colors of the industry. Worst part is they are finding trucks to move their freight at those prices. Just shows the lack of caring and knowledge on both sides.
     
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  8. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    I read the pdf a while ago.
     
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  9. crucar1800

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    The reason I am asking is because I have a contract as well, not with amazon, and to be honest I cannot think of any cargo claim that relates to the owner op. The trailer is sealed. Tractor picks it up at point A and delivers it at point B SEALED. Now, if we are talking about trailer that is a different scenario. pre and post trip inspections can take care of that part.
     
  10. hellpatrol

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    Thanks.
    That's the issues that I'm running into. With Fedex, the insurance is cheaper, I have a set run, know(generally) what I'll make a week so I can budget. I am home every morning.
    With amazon my insurance will double AND they want 20% down. I have to get my own plates, tags etc.
    What I don't like with Fedex is that they tell you" we require this in the truck" you have to pay for it and the monthly fees, if applicable, or else you risk losing the contract. Things like the ELD, cameras and the biggest issue, speed limiters.
    It's my truck, but they're saying what I have to do with it. Spent thousands repainting it for no reason, except it had to be white.
    You're absolutely right, if I do all of this, then I'll basically have my own authority so why not just find my own freight??
    I spoke with a gentleman and his wife in VA who were pulling an Amazon trailer and they said things are changing, not for the better. No dedicated routes anymore(which is what I was being told by a guy who used to do it, albeit a few years ago). A lot of shady drivers, turning into cheap freight.
    What I really want is the freedom to run when I want. With FEdex, you HAVE to run, or get someone to cover it. I wasn't able to take time off when I had my son for the summer and didn't see him that much. I want to take a week off and go do the wreaths across america, but it's during our heavy holiday season.
    I make good money, but my life is just sleep, do the runs, repeat. The same routes, the same everything.
    I'll stay where I'm at for now, just to get the money reserve built back up, but I would love to have some dedicated customers that I'd deal one-on-one with. I run well and am very conscious of getting the loads there on time and accomplishing the mission for the customer. All lot of times that goes unappreciated with big companies.
    Issues like truck parking is also a small problem. I park at the fedex terminal now.
    In summary, I'd like to do my own thing, but need to get more money. The Amazon thing its out. I see that. FYI they do pay better than Fedex, but both pay the best for runs in the hundreds of miles. The longer the run, the less the pay. The better money and the time off possibility( read:unknown) were the reasons for going. But with all the things you have to do, then why not just run your own numbers and not be beholding to them??
     
  11. ReeferOhio

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    You can count on Amazon to start requiring all the annoying things fedex does. Once you deduct your over head from the better rate at Amazon I'd be willing to bet they are about the same money. Owning a truck whether its leased onto or with your own authority is a business. You have to think like a business and make smart decisions. It's not a hobby, I try telling everyone this. If you're going to own a truck then own the truck and everything that goes with it, all the over head, maintenance, staffing, and most importantly your customers. Don't let another business dictate how you should run your company (brokers, or lease O/O companies). They control you and you control the most expensive part of a company the truck and the driver. All you've done for FedEx, Amazon, or any other lease is take the bourdon of the highest risk of the business off their books. Driver and truck.
     
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