overweight at steer axle.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by lovabletime, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. lovabletime

    lovabletime Bobtail Member

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    Hello, I got some overweight issue, and I was wondering I can get answer from here.
    One of our driver picked up a 40 ft generator, and and it gives steer axle weight more than 12000lbs even though the driver move all the tandem to the back. I was told that the steer axle can't be go over 12000lbs and drive axle and trailer axle can't be go over 34000lbs.

    steer axle 13280
    drive axle 32740
    trailer axle 32060
    gross weight 78080

    He's from Orlando, FL to Los Angeles, CA. Is he okay to drive like that?
    I called a few permit company to issue an overweight permit, but I was told that we don't need except for CA because they have limit for 12000lbs. Can anyone knows about this??
     
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  3. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Slide ur fifthwheel back... May have to slide tandams forward for bridge after sliding fifthwheel back tho.
     
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  4. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    What is your axle rating?
    What is your steer tire rating?
     
  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I'm curious what kind of tractor are we talking about? Does the driver weigh 400 pounds?

    Depending on the tractor and tanks specs and assuming it is full fuel presently, there will be some fuel burn loss but definitely need to slide the 5th wheel back, regardless.

    I'm also wondering if maybe this rig was weighed with some brakes pressed holding the tractor in an unnatural weight position when the weight was stamped. 13,000+ lbs on the steer is rare to see except on car haulers.
     
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  6. 201

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    Yeah, this is an odd one. I don't ever recall being over on a steer like that. Maybe in the old cabover days. With my Pete, loaded, I actually took weight OFF the steer. Sumting fishy here.
     
  7. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    I've had my W900L steer axle over weight before when I was hauling cattle. Once I figured out that I could only put 3500 pounds in the nose compartment of my bull wagon I did fine... But sometimes this made positioning the rest of my load to get full weight a bit difficult, depending on the size of the animals.
     
  8. ZVar

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    Sounds like they put the generator all the way to the front of the flatbed, or trailer. The load needs to be reworked to make it legal.

    Also, 12,000 is not the limit on steers. It's the lesser of three.
    1. State max, mostly 20,000 but every state is different so verify all states that will be traveled in in the Atlas
    2. Axle weight rating. Usually on the door jab.
    3. Tire rating, it's on the tire.

    In your normal feet truck, a 13.5 k axle is rate. 12k and 12.5 are common though.
     
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  9. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Don't forget the California KPRA laws.
     
  10. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    I just went around the scales,,,,:p
     
  11. AModelCat

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    I don't know what's so hard to understand. Its all leverage. Find out where the 5th wheel needs to be to have 12k on steers and 34k on drives with full gear and full fuel and leave it there (if bridge laws allow for it). Trailer axle position has zero effect on the weight split between the steer axle and drive axles.
     
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