Why are 53 ft van trailers the first type of driving job

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    It seems like the industry tries to get new drivers to start with a 53ft van and sleeper truck. These trucks are 70 ft long. The milk tankers I am driving are 48 ft loong and it's with a daycab. Personally I would rather drive the slightly shorter truck. The product surge is not that big of a deal, just drive like a reasonable human being, slow down in corners. It's allot easier to deal with a slightly shorter trailer and no sleeper.

    I don't think tankers too bad, I think the way the industry wants to start new drivers in 53ft vans is the best thing to start with. Kind of wishes I did tanker in the beginning.
     
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  3. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Just a thought, not saying it's right or wrong, but if a person learns to control something that is 70 feet long, then when the eventaully move to a 48 footer it is a lot less intimidating.
     
  4. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I'd hazard a guess that it's this way because dry van work is the low hanging fruit. And most dry van work consists of 53 foot trailers. And it's cheaper when a new hire rolls a load of toilet paper in a $20000 van trailer and a cheap Freightshaker vs a owner operator spec'd Kenworth with a $70000 tank behind it.

    Then again, nobody ever said that dry van work must be your first driving job. I started in flatbed, moved to lowboy, and I'm doing tanker now. I've pulled a dry van maybe 5000 miles total in 16 years.
     
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    Well, a bit silly, but a question is a question. 53 foot wagons are the standard of the industry, even though, many never fill that capacity. The reasoning is, better to have the longest wagon possible, in case you haul toilet paper or some other bulky product. I doubt you'll ever see 53 foot tankers or dump trailers, as those are pretty much single purpose units ( although, I have hauled freight in a dump trailer,,,don't ask) And there's a huge difference pulling a 53 as opposed to a 48,,, big difference.
     
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    It's obviously because there are so many of them. :)
     
  9. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Don't think you will ever see a 53' tanker because a 48' tanker is already on an overweight permit. The load itself can be 70,000 lbs with a gross of 105k or so. 53 ft tankers would make no sense. The empty vehicle is made out if stainless steel and is heavier to begin with.

    With tankers you have the weight and the surge, with van trailers it's the length and otr lifestyle, often times tankers are home daily.

    Driving a tanker class a in Wyoming, Genesee, and Livingston counties in ny you better know how to grab gears on an 18 speed. You bleed off speed fast on these hills. Not the time to miss a gear
     
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  10. Toomanybikes

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    1)Most freight is delivered in a dry van

    2)You don't have to worry about teaching load securement in a dry van. You should- but that is another story

    3)The brain-dead can get a dry van loaded or unloaded.

    4)Dry van is the simplest vehicle to get scaled right.

    5)Forgetting to fill the refer is not a problem in a dry van.

    6)Setting the air temperature is not a problem in a dry van.

    7)Knowing the product weight is not a driver's responsibility in a dry van.

    8)Harder for the clumsy and unfit to fall when working a dry van. Yes - it is still possible.

    9)The real reason is ----- dry van is highly seasonal. The mega training companies have figured out a way to harvest a seasonal work force without paying increased unemployment taxes by laying drivers off:

    They pose as a training company. Sell the training school to the driver $$$$. Put them on a van load or OTR for a few months. Then when freight drops off after Christmas, since they have mostly new drivers, they have plenty of drivers that have safety violations and just cause for firing. When dry van season picks up, sell more training, get more drivers, and repeat.
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Something like 50-75% of freight is dry van
     
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