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  1. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Well, since you've been on here since '08, you aren't new to the game of trucking, are you? If that's not the case, I sure hope you are kidding. We talked W/P out of it. Takes a big set of 'em, and a LOT of experience..just driving and shifting in and of itself. 20 years behind me and I still wouldn't venture that path; mostly due to the 'yayhoos' on the road anymore.

    ps: Diesel isn't as bad as "Fuel all Kinds" I guess... as a side note~!
     
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  3. NightWind

    NightWind Road Train Member

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    I know they are different and y'all can have them. I've hauled gas in a smooth bore no bulkheads, never hauled A/C. My buddy I'm setting up the printer for hauls gas and he thinks I'm crazy cause my wheels come off the ground when I unload ROFLMBO
     
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  4. ZVar

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    Remember guys that a 53 foot tanker would have to follow the same king pin laws as a van. The pics on a phone make it hard, but I'm not seeing any that have sliding tandems. All have wheels all the way back. Not seeing that being legal.
     
  5. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    That is exactly what my best friend told me. We've been friends since high school. He drove gasoline most of his life. The big one was the 'yayhoos' on the road anymore.
     
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    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Unless there's something I DON'T know..... the 53's (Etnyres) that I've pulled for almost 8 years have fixed tandems. Sliding is not an option. @Cat sdp ... correct me if I'm wrong? ( I know I am when it comes to pictures, haha! )
     
  7. Cat sdp

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    I’ve never seen a tank with a sliding tandem...,.

    Why would you want a 53’ tank...? Liquid is heavy enough that you don’t need that length to get the weight to max out. I’m not even sure any real tank manufacturers have a 53’ trailer....

    Most tanks I’ve pulled are 40-45 feet...


    P.S. If your talking dry bulk I’m not really up on those
     
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  8. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    I don't know of any king pin laws? Where is that?
    There are weight laws on wheels. Steering, tractor tandems, trailer tandems. Even ones that cover more wheels and axles. Even bridge laws requiring weight, and distance on wheels/tandems. But king pin law?
    Yes, the fifth wheel placement determines how much weight on the tractor, versus the trailer tandems. But king pin law?
    There is no such a thing as sliding tandems on tanker trailers.
    They had DOT come to my class. An owner can up the weight on a wheel by increasing the width of the tire. It's a little more complicated than that. Have to take other ratings into consideration and all. But generally so. The big thing is to not go too narrow on replacing tires. DOT doesn't seem to be concerned about ratings, versus width, when it comes to tires. Width is a mandatory requirement on weight. This was straight from the DOT inspectors from the port of entry. To tell you the truth. I doubt anyone gets into trouble, except the billybob's who are too smart for everyone else. They were real nice to us. Taught us alot.

    Oh and BTW: Notice the pictures I put up on trailers. Some are three hoppers. Others are four. I don't know if that makes a difference in length. Really no big deal to me on length. I'll work with what I get.
     
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    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    I'll check with my teacher. They pull double tankers here, full of cement powder. I'll see what the weights are.
    I do know that they pull doubles of gravel here. They are licensed at 150,000 pounds.
     
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  10. ZVar

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    It doesn't have to slid, but it cannot be all the way back if it's in MI anyway...

    Here is the MI law, from MI's website located at (pdf file) https://www.michigan.gov/documents/Loads_dim_87014_7.pdf

    Semitrailers longer than 50 feet shall have a wheelbase of 37 feet to 41 feet (measured from the kingpin coupling to the center of the axles or to the center of the tandem axle assembly if equipped with 2 axles).

    Sure, it doesn't have to slide, but it cannot be more than 41' back. Those pictured are all the way back. and cannot be if 53. At least in MI. I'm just saying those laws still apply, unless there are specific exemptions for tankers.
     
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    None of those trailers are 53’ footers... I’d bet the wife on it.......
     
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