As usual your disingenuous at least , full of it at most........
I guess you’re figuring the multi- torque in your figures.
Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?
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All the three European MX-13 engines are multi-torque engines. For some reason only two of the seven US versions are multi-torque engines.
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Sorry , it’s kinda like telling half the truth to make your point ......
The Mx doesn’t have all that torque you bragged about unless it’s in the top 2 gears.....
To get a heavy load moving you need the lower gears....

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To make it easier to compare I approximate torque and power curves of both in one graph. This way it is easier to compare, than just a few numbers.
Blue is Cummins, Red is DAF (in highest gears only, lower in other gears)
98989, daf105paccar and Cat sdp Thank this. -
Blue beats red everywhere except below 1100 rpms......And that’s in the highest 2 gears....much lower in others........
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Yes, I know. However, in lower gears the torque of the engine is multiplied by the gear ratio. In Europe these engines are combined with a 12 or a 16 speed ZF Traxon gearbox in direct drive or overdrive configurations, with a total ration of 16.7 or 17.9, meaning that the engine torque will be multiplied by those figures. In top gear, a truck will need most of its torque .
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Please repost this drawing with the complete torque lines starting from 900 RPM, the lowest value Cummins supplies in their specs. And keep in mind that this is the most powerful of all five Cummins engines, the other four are not on the graph. So a 15 litre 605HP engine against a 530HP 13 litre engine.
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No it just looks cool, that's all.Oxbow Thanks this.
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No it doesn't. It looks like you're driving an old worn out truck with a smoky engine.
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