load-scaling reality check

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by mathematrucker, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    They say there are no stupid questions, but I think I may have stumbled onto a couple.

    If you pick up a load that needs to be scaled in a city with a truck stop that has a CAT scale, and you expect it will take about 15-20 minutes from the time you exit the freeway until you are back on the freeway to use that scale, and you know there is a much quicker CAT scale in a small town 80 miles away that only takes about half as much time freeway to freeway, should you drive to the small town to scale?

    Note: if you do drive to the small town, you must also pass by several other CAT scales on the way, each of which takes roughly the same amount of time as the city scale.

    Re the load in question, it turns out the shipper loaded 27,000 lbs. onto the drive axles and 34,500 lbs. onto the trailer axles, and you have no further legal tandem slide available. :(

    Here's the kicker:

    It turns out you've been to this shipper many, many times before. So many times, in fact, that you are well aware that "they always load this way---that's just how they load---they've always done it that way."

    Under these circumstances, how wise is it for you to drive those 80 miles before scaling that load?

    Just doing a reality check here. When the driver wouldn't admit to having done anything wrong, saying "where I scale is my business---you can't tell me where to scale," I felt like I was talking to a child.

    Actually, as soon as I'm dispatched on that mess you dropped at our yard for some other driver to take into CA (the loading driver didn't have to worry about the 40-foot bridge rule), things like where you scaled the load, whether you returned to the shipper, etc. suddenly are my business! :mad:
     
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  3. GypsyWanderlust

    GypsyWanderlust Medium Load Member

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    Being new, please do tell how the problem is resolved at that point?
     
  4. Brotha D

    Brotha D Light Load Member

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    Load, if you have any doubts at all about whether or not the load is legal, immediately go to the nearest scale.
     
  5. GypsyWanderlust

    GypsyWanderlust Medium Load Member

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    No, I mean how do you fix the drive/trailer weights if you can't slide the tandem anymore and you are nowhere near the shipper.
     
  6. TommyTrucker88

    TommyTrucker88 Light Load Member

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    There's a lot in your topic. Not sure how to answer but I'll try give what I can.
    I guess it depends how the company wants it done ultimately , but when I scale I'm supposed to scale at the closest one. So if I have to drive the opposite direction that's what I'm doing.

    Also keep in mind if your truck is equipped with a apu you have a weight exemption depending on the state you are driving in. So it can still be possibly legal.

    You know every company will do things there way. It sounds like your company has strict rules or just don't like you.
     
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  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    My last few years on the road I refused to accept a repower unless the dropping driver could show me a dated cat scale ticket with the trailer number on it. If I was doing my walk around on a loaded trailer and saw no scale ticket it was a refuse to accept. Unless it was one of those real light loads that I had experience with. Bring me a sealed beer load or a heavy bottled water load with no scale ticket it was a that dog don't hunt. Always stick to your principles doing this job. NEVER allow yourself to be bullied.
     
  8. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

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    Do you have a sliding 5th wheel ?

    If you have a little play to move it up a tad it should get you closer.

    Going back is not an 80 mile mistake.
    It's a 160 mile mistake.
     
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  9. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Sorry friend...I don't believe in holding a grown man's hand. I'm not going to ask him where he scales at, because where he scales at is HIS business. So when he calls me to tell me how the the load is over axle on the trailer, I'm going to tell him to handle his business.

    If you tell me that you're an experienced driver, and I give you experienced driver pay, when problems arise in loading, you'd better be able to handle your business.
     
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  10. mathematrucker

    mathematrucker Medium Load Member

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    The effect of sliding 5th wheels on trailer tandems is negligible. By the way, the driver who loaded in the story has many years of experience. Did leave a copy of the CAT scale ticket with the bol, which was better than nothing, but the load needed to be reworked by the shipper. Driving 80 miles before scaling isn't wise just to save a few minutes...I think the saying goes "penny wise pound foolish."
     
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  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    This reminds me of a situation I ran into a bit picking up in Maryland. Loaded almost at the Maryland scales on 95 at the toll plaza with loads going north. Had to go back to Baltimore to scale. One of the biggest pains there is. However I know of many drivers getting over weight tickets at those scales after picking up loads at that shipper.
     
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