Fitzgerald Gliders might be getting more attention than they’d like

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  1. Crude Truckin'

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    It's the aliens, man. Puff puff
     
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  3. x1Heavy

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    What giggles me is that everyone in trucking since the 1990's are very very familiar with those great old engines.

    And we still rehash the same old tired arguments.
     
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  4. DL550CAT

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    You have somthing better to argue about?
     
  5. ODR

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    Emission engines were pushed on the market too soon, lacking in fuel efficiency and reliability. It is sad to think about all the wasted money, fuel, resouces and time. Not to mention operators put out of business due to lemon trucks. Nobody ever tallies up the environmental cost of throw away trucks and engines. A good ol'efficient truck has a way smaller impact on the environment IMO.
     
  6. tucker

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    But it was worth it , I know I was broke down because of it too, but anyone who’s been to Los Angeles can tell the difference in the air quality. (Its way cleaner now)
     
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  7. Oxbow

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    It was way cleaner prior to the emissions mandates on diesel engines, compared to the 70s.
     
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  8. Rubber duck kw

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    Yea that's mostly from the low sulphur diesel, it's also rarely their reason for emissions it's always, "the world is getting toi warm we're all gonna die" bs
     
  9. x1Heavy

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    No, I picked the engines because the industry has been running them with the early then emissions rules.

    I specifically remember a big brohahaw over a Cummins engine that was caught when the EPA discovered that it was turned to spew non emissions at highway speed above 25 mph back in roughly 1991 or so. And tuned to obey and pass emissions at city driving or lower.

    The railroads with their engines had similar challenges. I think they are already into what I call emissions tier 4 with them engines. Which is causing many to use the older ones in pooled power paid for by horsepower hours to try and not have to buy the newer emissions choked engines.

    I was around when they started putting color into fuel. Offroad only, farm only, highway only and industrial for tax purposes.

    Basically the industry is well aware of the older engines and should not complain at all because people will build a nice truck using whatever is on hand. If it happens to be pre-1999 oh well.

    A arguement should not be made on emissions, engines and so on. Who CARES.

    What SHOULD be contested is the culture that causes a Government to mandate things like ELD which is actually stopping the so called Milk and Eggs from going through when there isnt enough time to deliver. You can have the finest engine where you can take a whiff and it's *&^% does not stink and passes gold and marbles all around but it's NO GOOD when the regulations on HOS strands that load and driver a few miles from customer a while.

    I already say that at some point in the life time states like California for example intends to BAN fossil fueled engines by 2040. That means no more gas cars, no more desiel trucks. No more of that. Pure electric or something else. Maybe Hydrogen.

    All this heavy lifting about emissions or being exempt from same will go away when that Banning starts in serious force.
     
  10. ZVar

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    I used to work at a shop rebuilding car engines. I cannot see truck engines being treated different..
    at that shop, which was just a mass production facility and not a specialized build shop, the tolerances were at least 10% tighter than factory.
    For example re-sleaving a cylinders in blocks that were borderline was common. Then there was stuff like we would pull all mounting studs in a head if even one was broken. Springs for valves were all new, etc...

    Point is, it's the shop that does the work and not the fact it's a reman. Heck, if it's factory done, like a Detroit reman they have to make sure it's more solid than a new engine. Reputation and warranty and all that are important.
     
  11. Steel Dragon

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    Blocks and components over heated and twisted?
    You may get the cylinders straight,that doesn't mean the rest of the block is good.
    Turning the crank removes the heat treat process...do you reharden the surfaces after you turn them down?
     
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