I'm a local propane delivery driver and last week I was informed by my boss that we are in a propane shortage. He didn't give an exact reason but said the refinery slowed down production prematurely thinking winter was over. At least here in California. Now we have been getting our bulk loads from out of state. The price of propane per gallon has gone up at least $0.40 in the past week.
Shortage of propane, Nation wide, trasport drivers hours of service rules lifted.
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...and with all of the Marcellus Shale Gas drilling, fracking, fractionation and distribution pipeline networks going on in Western Pa., NE Ohio and W.Va., there shouldn't be a shortage for the next 200 years. Maybe if they stopped exporting so much of the domestic product, we'd have a bit more for ourselves...? Just sayin'.
"Shortages" are just a cover-up term for "greed".x1Heavy, snowman_w900, waveform and 1 other person Thank this. -
During on exemption I ran 19 hrs non stop. But it was because the good ppl of TN needed it. This was before eld's. But no safety director at any company would want a driver running over there 14. So during these exemptions it's the 70 that's lifted. Nothing elsespeedyk, snowman_w900 and waveform Thank this. -
@ not4hire: Thanks for finding that Waiver,
@ snowman: I'm in Southern CA San Diego, Inland empire. Thanks for clarifying the circumstances of the waiver going into effect .
The president of Consumer Watch Dog was on the news a few years back and said, the suppliers here in CA are exporting the surplus of fuel, making a killing on exports and keeping the supply low and the cost up.
CA has more refinery's then most places across the US, we export to Colorado, yet the consumer in CA pays more than them. It's just another CA tax. Our governor is a piece of work. I could write a book about CA. I don't know why anyone would want to move here. Unless you like working and giving your money away.Last edited: Mar 11, 2018
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It's a shame.
When I say there was a shortage, it may have technically been one, but I always believe it's the refineries inducing the shortage on purpose.
They will start using tactics like allocation to make it look like supply is extremely low.....that's when the price starts going up and retailers start getting in a panic because they can't get the gas they need and have to resort to going to farther distances to get the supply they need.
Everytime the refinery companies see an opportunity to do this, they do. They cash in on it every single time. -
Waveform...you might give some though to trying the other end of California. Say from Sacramento north. There are good jobs here if you look for them and they pay a heck of a lot more than 12 to 15 bucks an hour..
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There's quite a bit of tanker work around Sacramento, also LTL jobs.
The north end of the state is like a whole different world from where you are now.speedyk and snowman_w900 Thank this. -
The other side of the coin is the commodities market. Propane is a commodity traded publicly like many other energy products are, and it's all in the hands of the ones pulling the strings who dictates the supply and demand scenarios we are told are "shortages".
I've hauled it all, from gas and fuel to butane, Y grade, propane and LNG. What a joke that LNG business is. Security up the wazoo...military style security measures just to enter the plant to load, literally with hydraulic baracades, guards with rolling mirrors, etc. The one place in Everett, Mass I used to go to that distributes LNG is just bursting at the seams with this stuff.
Drivers get scrutinized every single load, whether it was once a day or 3 times a day, you had to go through the same exact protocol each time. One day as I was getting checked like a convict on my second load for that day, a taxi drives in and back out, loaded with what was obvious was a load of middle eastern looking deckhands on the LNG ship that was docked there, unloading gas into the facility from where else other than Yemen. Yemen...
I had to ask. I said, "why am I being checked out like a foreign spy every time I show up, but you just let that taxi in and out with a load of what looked like terrorists to me?" The guard just shrugged it off and replied, "it's policy, we're not allowed to scrutinize the crew members of the ships, they are exempt from this". Later on as I was still there on site, the taxi returned and all the passengers all unloaded their cargo out of the taxi of big screen TV's from Walmart, various electronic equipment, personal entertainment equipment, etc. Who knows what-all they brought back onto the ship from the city.
All this activity happening with people from a country that hate our guts and would like to kill us all, yet they supply us with Liquefied Natural Gas from Yemen, because it is CHEAP from them. It's all about the almighty dollar friends. -
So I guess it's ok to break HOS regs if you really need the stuff.
So, um look, it's either unsafe or its not. Which is it? -
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