I’ve typed several different things and deleted it, can’t quite get my thoughts typed out. It’s an interesting situation, the guys in this section have been called arrogant and maybe based on an anonymous internet forum we are. A friend and I were just texting about this Friday night, I read what I type and I think “man I’m an arrogant jerk” then I look around and see what goes on and I think I’m ok with myself.
In person I like to joke around and have fun, even online I would rather joke around then I would argue about load securement. But when it’s time for work I’m very serious about it, I’m the pusher at work always have been. That’s not to say I hurry and tear things up or endanger people put I want to get with it. I’m good at what I do and I’m proud of it, but I found it interesting that you question when you’ll make that mistake. I do the same thing, I wonder when I’ll screw up and make a big mistake. I hope I don’t but it’s in the back of my mind, maybe that’s what separates us from them. With a tall load I would have been watching everything. I’ve hauled plenty of loads taller, wider, longer, and heavier than that one and was aware of my surroundings to the best of my ability. Without knowing this guy and being there I would bet he was very nonchalant about it and it bit him. I’m not afraid of a load like that and it’s become fairly routine, that doesn’t mean I don’t respect it or that I’m not aware of the potential for disaster. There are people that can “pull” that load and those that can “handle” all aspects of that load and they are very different people.
I hate the idea of reducing the industry to lowest common denominator, but that’s been happening for years. The reason for the original HOS overhaul in 03 was in large part because drivers didn’t have the balls to tell their dispatcher they were tired and I’ll talk to you later. I’ve never understood how a person in an office a thousand miles away could “force” someone to keep running. Scared for their job I guess, something I’ve never felt. I suppose we should just ride it out, the fact is there will always be a market for niche drivers.
I’ve said it before and I’ll stick to it, the people that felt “drawn” to trucking (or any profession) are the best at it. That’s not to say there aren’t good drivers that took the job because the needed a job and turned out they were good at it. But instead of paying a decent wage to retain good drivers we pay as little as possible and keep chewing them up and spitting them out.
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Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by TripleSix, Apr 29, 2018.
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Someday, I wanna be like you guys. I wish to heck I didn't start this profession so late in life but I'm diggin' it big time
Keep up the good work and thank you for all you do.johndeere4020, Tug Toy, sawmill and 2 others Thank this. -
I'll stick with my long (very easy once you relax and figure out your turns carefully) - and my wide (much more attention to rapidly approaching danger) loads, until I progress to a different trailer and height.
Sadly there will be many jumping the gun and destroying bridges in Nashville and other locations in the mean time.
I never felt drawn to the industry, but now I'm here, I'll strive to maintain a zero problem record, until I feel comfortable enough to tell 'stories' about what I've done, which so far, I shy away from doing.FerrissWheel, johndeere4020, Tug Toy and 5 others Thank this. -
Murder...that would be the reason why I would never speak to Billy professionally ever again. Try to help a grown man out, and he shows his arse? Never again.FerrissWheel, wore out, johndeere4020 and 9 others Thank this. -
I've tried to tone my posts down, in an effort to be less controversial and less A-Holish and possibly more helpful. I make it a point to stay out of sidewalk sissy "someone please hold my hand, I am fragile/say something to make me feel better" threads. @soloflyr said, in his post about meeting the 18 wide with a 16 wide and having to back up, "bigger loads have the right of way." And then someone comments about how these oversize guys think they own the road. I wanted to say something, but I didn't. Bigger load has the right of way. That's not a law, that's a COOPERATION. Yet, everywhere else, people are completely UNWILLING to allow another truck to pass on flat ground and they justify elephant racing in slow trucks. I'm not slow, but if another truck pulls out to pass me, I have no problems allowing him to pass. I rather him pass me than sit beside me for miles on end and block my left. How can you just sit there, side by side for miles on end? The last thing I want is for an OSOW to be damaged. The longer you ride side by side, the greater chance that becomes. Being a safe driver isn't not having an accident, it's AVOIDING bad situations as they come up.
I don't need a law to tell me about my phone. I stopped well before it ever became law. I'd never missed before and I missed. Never again. I was just glad that I didn't hit that bridge or get caught. So now you have law and "hall monitors" looking to snitch. If you need a law in order to be a safer driver, YOU ARE AN IDIOT: You should not be driving and are a danger to everyone on the road!
You're right, JD...I've never figured out that 'dispatcher forced me' stuff. So, now they are happy because of the HOS. If you needed a law in order not to be "forced" to do something that you didn't want to do, YOU ARE AN IDIOT: You should not be driving and are a danger to everyone on the road!
That's the absolute worst part of the job...having to rub elbows with idiots. I do the very best I can, but I am regulated like an idiot so that an idiot can have a job.
"But Six, you don't seem to remember that even you had to start somewhere...you weren't always at the top of the pile, you arrogant SOB!"
I DO REMEMBER. Why do you think we try to help newer ones? We all had help. JD, Brother Ruthless, Big Ronnie...etc. There's not a one of us that didn't. The only person that can help you in this section of the industry is the driver that was there before you. What you call help, I call wiping an adult's arse. I refuse to coddle an adult. Male or female. If he's in a bind and needs a hand, I will without fail give him a hand. If he needs a shoulder to cry on because he had a stressful day, I have nothing for him. If you can't do the job, go do something else. If a woman can do the job, great. If she can't, I am not going to give her a shoulder to cry on just as I wouldn't a guy. How's that for feminism?FerrissWheel, wore out, MACK E-6 and 21 others Thank this. -
Every single day, every time you load up, every time you get a load, every time you get out of bed for work, bring that A Game. Do the very best job that you can do. Thing is, as you increase in experience, level up that A Game. Your A Game at Year 10 has to be better than the A Game at Year 1. If you're gaining experience, but not improving your game, you are bound to mess up. This is usually why experienced drivers mess up, wipe out, hit bridges...etc.
It's real simple...go full tilt 100%best NO SLACKING ALLOWED every single day. Welcome to the Brotherhood.
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Used to load out of Laredo for years. There was this girl that would get these tarp loads and then go to her truck and put her short shorts on. Guys would be lined up to tarp her loads. 110 degrees outside and these guys are tarping for her while she sits in the drivers lounge in the AC. When they got done, she’d smile at them and leave.
Had an instance in Laredo where a driver came to me and asked for my help. New to flat bedding and he had no idea what he was doing. I explained to him about securement. I showed him how to tarp and flap the fronts and rears of the load. He thanked me. “Waitaminute...we are not done.” I took him to another driver that was preparing to tarp and explained to the driver that we had a new driver and how we really wanted to help him tarp. So, we got that load tarped and went to the next truck.and the next. The guys we helped went with us. We tarped 10 loads or more rather quickly.
A woman sat and watched all of the working and the activity. When we got finished and cooled off and cleaned up, she comes to me asking for help tarping. “You sat right there watching all these guys tarp all these loads. You didn’t lift a finger to help and now that we are all done, you want “help”? Goeth intercourse thyself.”
As I walked away, I heard her tell a bootysniffer that she wasn’t used to hearing NO. Education is priceless.FerrissWheel, gentleroger, MACK E-6 and 15 others Thank this. -
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As I'm moving forward in the open deck work, I'm always looking to up my game. I've always been a believer in "if you aren't going to do something right (and well), don't do it at all."
My employer isn't a "for hire" trucking company. All of my loads have the same origination point. The trailer is loaded by myself (as much as possible), or by co workers. Several times now I've had to re-work loads that I didn't put on the trailer or have had to change securement that I didn't do. Thing is, my co workers were both the "driver" before me. One would think they would know better than to do some of the silly bovine scatology I've seen, but then we must revisit the fact that not all drivers take the job seriously. It's an "easy" means to an end. Just hold the steering wheel and go.
I'm doing a lot of learning on the fly. Every day I go in with the intent of doing things better than I did the day before. If something seems fishy, I do some research or ask some questions to get to the bottom of things. When I had a load shift on me the other week when I was making one of the final turns to get to the unload point, before I unstrapped I took a few minutes to figure out WHY. Then when the why was found, make sure I didn't make the same mistake again.
Been reading a lot of threads here on TTR (including browsing #### near every page of the flatbed load picture thread) to see what the old hands here have to say. Finding this place more helpful than my employer, because the mentality there seems to be to just get the load on the trailer and delivered ASAP without a hell of a lot of regard for actual planning. In fact, tomorrow I'm going to be walking into the shop with a section of the FMCSA handbook printed out because I'll be ###### if I ever pull a load of concrete pipe the way I was "taught" to the other day. I knew something was out of whack, but couldn't quite put my finger on it until I got home and researched it. (Hint: My truck has exactly one chain and one snap binder on it).
Anyway, I appreciate threads like this. Always good to know there's hands out there who take this crap seriously who I can turn to when I know my employer is full of it.FerrissWheel, DSK333, gentleroger and 9 others Thank this.
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