im trying to figure out if I can get a shorter dump trailer and still clear 80k. My truck is a 250” wb so is the formula based on steer axle to trailer axle, or tandems to tandems? I know most pleople run 40’ frameless, but if I understand the formula right, I can get a 36’ and still be 80k. Shorter the trailer, shorter the dump height. If anyone can help me figure this out, I would appreciate it. I’ve looked over the formula many times and can’t figure it out completely.
Help on bridge law formula for semi dump
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by T-800, Aug 24, 2018.
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I personally don't pull an end dump but a good friend of has been for years. He's got a 260" Pete with a triaxle 28' full frame. The problem with going with a shorter trailer is you run into problems with the inner bridge (drives to trailer) so you've got to have more rubber on the road to get to 80k gross.
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Without knowing your location and whefe you plan to run its hard if not impossible to give you an accurate answer.
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Indiana only. Sorry I forgot to mention that
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Iirc you should be fine at 38' l know a 26' is good for around 73000lbs gross on the interstate. I used to haul b-trains into Gary Indiana. Without a permit we would split them up at the mi-ind line. The lead was good for 80000lbs gross and the pup was good for 73 and change. The reason we were told was the lead was about 38' feet long to the rear axle of the triple. The pup was only 27'? To the rear axle of the tandem. So they trimmed the gross weight back. You also had to have the axles tight together to get the inner spread needed. Meaning a 26' pup with a 9' spread got its weight knocked back for that reason too. Don't take these numbers for gospel as its been at least 15 years since l ran trains into Indiana. Good luck on your plan. If you run into a mi-ind steel hauler theyll know all the ins and out of it.
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Check this out and see if it helps or hurts
Indiana Bridge Laws / Vehicle Weight Laws | Dump Trucks
And this one
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/sw/brdgcalc/calc_page.htm -
I’ve already seen both of those and can’t figure it out. I just don’t want to buy a shorter trailer and not be able to gross out, but I want to buy the shortest I can since I have lime contracts this winter and don’t want a 40’ in the air in the fields if I don’t have to. Hopefully someone will chime in because I can’t be the first with this setup and question
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Figure 6
Now check axles 1 through 5 (Figure 6)
Actual weight = 12,000 + 17,000 + 17,000 + 17,000 + 17,000 = 80,000 pounds.
Maximum weight (W) = 80,000 pounds (Bridge Table for "L" of 51 feet and "N" of 5 axles).
Therefore, this axle spacing is satisfactory.MartinFromBC Thanks this. -
That must be why some guys stretch the trucks. This is the figure I saw and what made me question if I needed a 40’. I’m only running in Indiana so scale houses aren’t really an issue. But I just want to make sure
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