Hub miles or PC Miller

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Phenomenal, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    7 to 10% unpaid miles.
     
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  3. Phenomenal

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    Ya. I started a thread over in the Canadian forum about what I want from my first gig.

    1. My own wheels ( no slip seat)
    2. 48 States and Canada

    So that narrowed it down considerably.
     
  4. gokiddogo

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    I meant it more like:
    You will make approximately the same at the end of the year. How do you want your pay stub to read? 120,000 miles at hub miles of .50, no accessorial, for $60,000. Or, pc miles, 105,000 miles at .42 for 44,100, + a bunch of accessorial pay for whatever, totals out to the same approximate 60 grand.
    If both jobs are similar work then it comes down to things like, do you like to operating area, time away from home and home time, is the equipment good, general b.s. from dispatch, etc.
     
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  5. Phenomenal

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    I still don't have all the accessorial pay data back from the companies I'm talking to so I can't really calculate yet. But would 42/hub miles plus accessorial pay for picks, switches, drops and $20/hr waiting time and guaranteed daily pay rate $200/day be a good start.
     
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    Obviously one of the reasons companies pay pc miler is some drivers in the past abuse hub miles pay. Which just drives the whole cost to run the load up since the truck eats for every mile. Fuel tires oil changes. That's why it is rare. And also why it's generally accepted drivers will get a predetermined # of miles for a given run.

    Another example for those who make the claim of drivers being their own worst enemy.
     
  8. ZVar

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    Cpm vs. hub is one of the most minor things to worry about. Simply subtract 10% from the hub rate to get practical rate.

    From there compare cpm and accessory pay. Stuff like detention, layover, breakdown, multistop, etc play a larger role in gross pay.
     
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  9. driverdriver

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    Less miles is always better.
    Accessorial pay is a great plus as long as it's consistent each week.
    Same with bonuses, only good if you can actually achieve them.
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Yes. Most any mileage measurement other than hub miles shorts you 5-10%. It's been that way for years. Work for a company that's honest, pays well, has good benefits & customers. That's more important to me.
     
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    You're saying 10% less is no big deal?!? So for every 1,000 miles you drive you're driving 100 miles for free. That's about $40 that you worked for. A typical work week of 3000 miles you've lost $120. Multiply that by 52 weeks = $6,240.

    Not so insignificant now.

    Now just consider that this company has 400 drivers. 6,000 x 400 = $2,400,000 the company has now ripped off its drivers in just one year.

    Do truckers just have Stockholm Syndrome? How else can it be that lawyers haven't jumped all over this. I'd think there'd be class action suits left and right with these sorts of trucking company scams.

    Let's call a spade a spade.
     
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