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Can a non CDL class C licensee drive a non combination class 8 vehicle (bobtail)?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Labrador, Oct 3, 2018.

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  1. Oct 3, 2018 #11
    Labrador

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    Thanks for the replies. Good point on the air brakes. It is kind of hard to believe they give farmers an exemption to drive on public roads with these machines.
     
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  3. Oct 3, 2018 #12
    Labrador

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    I forgot to mention, the tractor does not typically weight more than 26,000 lbs though right? but as mentionoed it does have air brakes usualy.
     
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  4. Oct 3, 2018 #13
    BUMBACLADWAR

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    No,need a class B with airbrakes endorsement.
     
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  5. Oct 3, 2018 #14
    Allow Me.

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    Bobtail power unit twin screw is rated above 26,001, so you need a CDL, especially with air brakes, (class "B") . Now to tow a trailer rated above 10,001, you need a class "A". Got It ? Farm veh exempt.
     
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  7. Oct 3, 2018 #15
    wis bang

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    the farmer exemption covers them for hauling their own crops, hauling the neighbor's stuff makes it commercial.

    Besides Most farmers operate $250,000.00 combines that could flatten Bigfoot...a lot grew up backing up hay wagons and milk tankers N' stuff...they have the spatial skills to handle a class 8.
     
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  8. Oct 3, 2018 #16
    Ridgeline

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    Wow... you guys ...

    If it is registered as an rv, that's one thing but the op asked if a straight truck (non-combination) class 8 (over 26,000 lb gvw) can be driven with a cdl-C in the US.

    The answer is no, it is a commercial vehicle and requires a cdl-b license.
     
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  9. Oct 4, 2018 #17
    Labrador

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    Ok. As a related question, I thought most class 8 tractors weighed in the 15,000 to 20,000 lb range fully fueled, but people seem to think they weigh more than 26,000 lbs
     
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  10. Oct 4, 2018 #18
    wis bang

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    day cabs 15000 to 18000 depending on single or tandem axles. Most average sleepers are around 21,000 and the condos and supersize ones even more BUT they ALL have a MGVWR well over 26,000 on the certification plate on the doorframe....
     
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  11. Oct 4, 2018 #19
    Ridgeline

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    OMG ... read this carefully.


    IT is not about the WEIGHT of the truck.

    The WEIGHT of the truck is irrelevant.

    WHAT MATTERS is the WEIGHT RATING of the truck.

    It is in the form of Gross Vehicle Weight - GVW.

    A class seven truck is a truck that has a weight rating under 33,000 lbs GVW.

    A class eight truck is a truck that has a weight rating above 33,000 lbs GVW.

    A class B license covers any truck over 26,001 lbs GVW.
     
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  12. Oct 4, 2018 #20
    Labrador

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    Thank you Wis Bang.

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    OMG, thx for the answer.
    I noticed you kept typing GVW instead of GVWR.

    GVW - Gross Vehicle Weight (which would be 15,000 to 20,000 bobtail
    GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (which would be above 33,000 lbs I presume)

    So it is a commercial vehicle if the GVWR, not GVW, is greater than 26,001 lbs.
     
    Labrador, Oct 4, 2018
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